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  • Mr310
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2011
    • 5692

    CZ-97 vs. USP .45 vs. Sig 220 vs. Glock 21SF vs. M&P45

    Thinking about a .45 in a non-1911 format. What do people think about these different platforms? I'm not really one for upgrading, modding, etc. I'm used to the Sig platform and do well with it, but something is drawing me to the CZ and USP especially. The prices of magazines do seem to be a major drawback, however. Before I go rent them, is there anything I should look out for?
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  • #2
    JoeCA
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 127

    Get a Glock 30S before SSE goes away. Thats what I did. Mine gets out of gun jail this weekend.


    Maybe look into the P227 since you like Sigs.
    Last edited by JoeCA; 07-28-2014, 2:12 AM.

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    • #3
      Trenchfoot
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2012
      • 7293

      Originally posted by JoeCA
      Get a Glock 30S before SSE goes away. Thats what I did. Mine gets out of gun jail this weekend.
      Well, that didn't take very long.

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      • #4
        gunRfun
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Mar 2005
        • 786

        My vote would be for a CZ97(2013 new updated model), Glock 21, and Glock 30. These 3 were a bit of a surprise to me, especially the CZ97 being so accurate with smooth recoil.
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        • #5
          Wild West
          Member
          • May 2014
          • 393

          Originally posted by Trenchfoot
          Well, that didn't take very long.
          Lol!! Agreed.

          Get the Sig

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          • #6
            CAGLS
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 3648

            CZ97B, all steel full dust cover frame, has lower muzzle flip, 10rd capacity, and great ergos. Mecgar 10rd mags for the 97B are reasonably priced @ $24.99 with a better anti friction coating and they make the oem CZ mags. My P220 is on the chopping block.
            Last edited by CAGLS; 07-28-2014, 3:48 AM.

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            • #7
              Deimos887
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 1673

              It sounds like a P227 or off roster flavor of the P220 would be right up your alley.

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              • #8
                Pally
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 874

                CZ97B!
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                • #9
                  gti_20ae
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1695

                  Have you try USP 45 Expert? Factory tuned trigger, longer slide/barrel(o-ring). Really nice gun and very accurate.
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                  • #10
                    glock17_1986
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 653

                    Hey op i have not owned a sig so i can not comment on that. I do own a cz 97b and have owned a usp 45. They are both great guns hands down.

                    The usp was a very soft shooting .45 and fits the hand well for me at least. It was extremely accurate for me and ran great. The only draw back for me was how expensive parts were and how expensive mags were. I think they were like 30 bucks. The big plus for me was it was ambi controls.

                    The 97b is full on metal. Mine is a 2001 so i have the barrel that doesnt like to feed hollow points to well. The thing i didnt know before i bought mine was that there isnt a lot of aftermarket parts for the 97b. Like there is for the 75 and other more popular models, it some how became the red headed step child. Other than that felt recoil is very minimum. Its accurate and heavy. I love mine, i truley think you cant get a better .45.

                    One thing i will say about it is a lot of people mod the cz's which is completely fine but i do not think they need to be moded. Now i am not saying dont, i am just saying it isnt a must inless you want to.

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                    • #11
                      smak28
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4120

                      Originally posted by glock17_1986
                      Hey op i have not owned a sig so i can not comment on that. I do own a cz 97b and have owned a usp 45. They are both great guns hands down.

                      The usp was a very soft shooting .45 and fits the hand well for me at least. It was extremely accurate for me and ran great. The only draw back for me was how expensive parts were and how expensive mags were. I think they were like 30 bucks. The big plus for me was it was ambi controls.

                      The 97b is full on metal. Mine is a 2001 so i have the barrel that doesnt like to feed hollow points to well. The thing i didnt know before i bought mine was that there isnt a lot of aftermarket parts for the 97b. Like there is for the 75 and other more popular models, it some how became the red headed step child. Other than that felt recoil is very minimum. Its accurate and heavy. I love mine, i truley think you cant get a better .45.

                      One thing i will say about it is a lot of people mod the cz's which is completely fine but i do not think they need to be moded. Now i am not saying dont, i am just saying it isnt a must inless you want to.
                      +1. Was petty much going to say the same. CZ97B is very accurate, soaks recoil much better due to all steel, but crappy trigger that will smooth out in time. It also has a super long DA pull but doesn't matter if you're just planning to shoot paper. HK USP 45 is also accurate and great quality but expensive parts. I would recommend this for a home defense pistol over the CZ. As a shooter, I recommend the CZ for a softer recoil but either one is a great paper shooter.
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                      • #12
                        clunkmess
                        Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 291

                        I have the P220 and it rocks. Although I'd SSE the P227 while you still can!

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                        • #13
                          hossb7
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3285

                          I think the M&P45 is one of the best non-1911 guns you can get.
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                          • #14
                            Cool Custard
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2013
                            • 3292

                            Cz for sure! It's the easiest shooting .45 ever!
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                            • #15
                              1CavScout
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 3234

                              My G21SF is a very soft shooting .45.
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