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  • Toy4Rick
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 269

    Mags or reloads

    Hey everyone,

    My son just picked up a new Springfield Armory Loaded in 9mm. Sweet shooter

    Twice during the first 100 rounds the slide would not got to full battery, it would stop short by about 1/8-1/4 inch. The first time my son cleared it and told me about it, the second time he called me over. I saw what he described so as I went to clear it by ejecting the mag first, the instance I pushed the button the slide went home. Both mags are factory and it happened to each mag just once.

    Reloads are as follows
    124 gr Montana Gold FMJ RN
    4.2 grns Titegroup
    Tulammo SPPs
    Mixed brass, loaded to 1.132 OAL

    Yes we cleaned and oiled it before going out.

    So what do you suspect as the culprit?

    New gun issues to be expected?
    Mags?
    Reloads?
    ???

    Thanks in advance
    Rick
  • #2
    davidb
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1769

    try some metalform mags and make sure its nice and lubed up

    ive only had fail to return to battery from crappy mags, but i guess it could be the ammo, but id probably try again w/ new mags first

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    • #3
      SoCal Choppas
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 425

      Springfield Armory What? 1911?, XD?

      I'm guessing you need to just "break it in" with factory ammo first before deciding if it's the gun or your reloads.

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      • #4
        a308garand
        Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 303

        OAL may be a bit on the long side.
        Field strip the pistol and take out the barrel. Drop a round into the barrel chamber and look at how far it goes in.
        The base of the ammo should be flush or slightly bellow the the back (hood) of the barrel.
        When it sticks out, the round is not sized small enough to completely fit into the chamber for firing. It causes and out of battery condition.

        May just be some of the rounds out of the bunch you have.....

        OAL of 1.120" for 124gr bullet using Titegroup- Nosler manual
        other Lyman manual shows same or shorter OAL.
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        • #5
          L84CABO
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2009
          • 8740

          This is why it's best to use quality, full power, factory ammo when you're breaking in a new gun. Makes it easier to tell where your problems are coming from.

          Also use a thumb over thumb grip when you're trying to diagnose a problem like this. In this manner you can be sure that the thumbs aren't contacting the slide and slowing it down. Even a little momentum off the slide on a full size 9mm 1911 can create a problem.
          "Kestryll I wanna lick your doughnut."

          Fighter Pilot

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          • #6
            artichokie
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 178

            Try taking out the barrel and see if the reloads drop into the barrel all the way. I had a similar issue with my relads. I failed to crimp them enough.

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            • #7
              nahpungnome
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 2159

              Break it in more If it still fails to return to battery, maybe look at the extractor tension.

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              • #8
                skosh69
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 4290

                Originally posted by SoCal Choppas
                Springfield Armory What? 1911?, XD?

                .
                OP said S/A LOADED....that would indicate a 1911.

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                • #9
                  balmo
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1684

                  OAL looks okay. Do you crimp your bullet at the end or just seat it?

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                  • #10
                    Masterdebater
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1095

                    Originally posted by SoCal Choppas
                    Springfield Armory What? 1911?, XD?

                    I'm guessing you need to just "break it in" with factory ammo first before deciding if it's the gun or your reloads.
                    LMFAO

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                    • #11
                      kmca
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2371

                      It's new and needs a little break in time. Sounds like it might be a combination of tight slide fit and sharp corners at the slide/disconnector interface.

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                      • #12
                        Toy4Rick
                        Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 269

                        Thanks everyone for the input

                        Regarding crimping vs seating. I reload on a Lee Pro 1000 with a 3 stage setup so I am not aware that a crimp can be applied, just seat to OAL

                        Next week we can try some factory ammo and see how it goes

                        Rick

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                        • #13
                          Dionyn
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 25

                          I had a 9mm loaded that was giving me issues using 10 round magazines, but they were nosediving. The 9 round magazines that came with the gun worked fine. I called Springfield, told them the situation, they asked me a bunch of questions, joked and scoffed about our gun laws, then proceeded to send me a label to ship the gun to them. They told me to send the mags I typically shoot with and two weeks later, they shipped the gun back to me with a fairly long list of things they did (including a little reforming of the barrel ramp and frame) and it works flawlessly now.

                          I guess the main point is, if you've already put a few hundred rounds through it, call Springfield. They'll take care of you. They even paid for shipping both ways in my situation.
                          Last edited by Dionyn; 07-28-2014, 5:56 PM. Reason: Caliber clarification

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                          • #14
                            SoCal Choppas
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 425

                            Originally posted by skosh69
                            OP said S/A LOADED....that would indicate a 1911.
                            Thanks for the FYI, I'm not a member of 1911 club...; so not up with all the 1911 lingo

                            "Loaded" to me, is a baked potato with all the fixings

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                            • #15
                              Voo
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1702

                              Youre shooting reloads.. who knows.. in all likelihood, the combination of weak (under powered) ammo and the 1911 being new are contributions to the slide not going into full battery..

                              I'd not change or spend money on anything until you've shot it more.. The problem you describe tends to go away when parts are more worn..
                              Aloha snackbar!

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