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  • Pauliedad
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    • Dec 2012
    • 2095

    Idiot scratch dollar value

    How much does the idiot scratch cost?

    $100.00

    $200.00

    $500.00

    Yeah, I know, it depends on the gun.

    3k value it effects more but say its a used whatever for $1000ish with the sacred "about 500 rounds down the pipe"

    How much then?
  • #2
    Cool Custard
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 3292

    Generally I'd say it takes 10-20% of the value of whatever 1911 it's on away. Except for maybe a RIA. Those are cheap and can be excused as most buy those to learn on.
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    • #3
      Snoopy47
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 3885

      Originally posted by Pauliedad
      Yeah, I know, it depends on the gun.

      How much then?
      On a cheapy gun I'd forgive a little on the cost, about $50.

      On a high end gun it would depend on how much it would cost to refinish it. At least $200+
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      • #4
        CK_32
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        • Sep 2010
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        Honestly if it has a scratch and it bothers you so much to have to ask, don't buy it or don't buy used. Not to mention you having to ask, not to be rude or jump to conclusions will probably end up putting one on your self anyways.

        And if your asking to take $$ of a $3k pistol I'm assuming it's probably out of your price range anyways.
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        • #5
          Cool Custard
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          • Jul 2013
          • 3292

          Originally posted by CK_32
          Honestly if it has a scratch and it bothers you so much to have to ask, don't buy it or don't buy used. Not to mention you having to ask, not to be rude or jump to conclusions will probably end up putting one on your self anyways.

          And if your asking to take $$ of a $3k pistol I'm assuming it's probably out of your price range anyways.
          And some people want that $3k pistol to look the part too. That's like saying a scratch down the side of a Maserati is only cosmetic and wanting money off is just you being cheap or you can't afford it.
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          • #6
            beetle
            The Clip guy
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2009
            • 1677

            I have a great example of this. In 2011 I went to the Rock Island Auction and personally inspected this gun. It was in beautiful shape. It should be, it belonged to a well known collector who only had the best of the best.



            At auction it sold for $16,000 not including commissions.

            In 2013 the guy who bought it put it up for auction again. This time around it was sporting some fresh "IDIOT SCRATCHES".



            Sure the scratches are not too deep, but still. Who put scratches on a $16,000 gun? Not only on the frame, but on the slide too! Sheesh!

            With the new scratches it sold for $11,000. So that was a $5,000 idiot scratch! LOL.

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            • #7
              beetle
              The Clip guy
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              • May 2009
              • 1677

              oh yes one more thing -- on war collectibles (i.e. 1911s from WWI, WWII, etc) the idiot scratch is to be expected. Finding a war collectible without a scratch is very rare.

              So in this case you should almost expect the scratch to be there, and then pay a premium of it isn't.

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              • #8
                Carcassonne
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 4897

                Originally posted by Pauliedad
                How much does the idiot scratch cost?

                $100.00

                $200.00

                $500.00

                Yeah, I know, it depends on the gun.

                3k value it effects more but say its a used whatever for $1000ish with the sacred "about 500 rounds down the pipe"

                How much then?


                If you are selling the gun, it lowers it by $25. If you are buying the gun, it lowers it by 30%.




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                • #9
                  Pauliedad
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                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2095

                  Really just curious about what others think. My 1911s are all without them and not likely to get them by my hand.
                  If I wanted a high end custom job and it was scratched, I don't think you could discount it enough for me. As much is how it shoots is how it looks.
                  For a beater or project gun I want something with miles on it. Honest holster wear and if that had the scratch, so be it.
                  Again, just wondering what others think.

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                  • #10
                    philobeddoe
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                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2022

                    I charge more for the idiot scratch mod.



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                    • #11
                      451040
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 2169

                      Originally posted by Pauliedad
                      How much does the idiot scratch cost?

                      It's free, courtesy of the idiot.

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                      • #12
                        trigger945
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 5795

                        Similar to 1911's without the idiot scratch, the value depends on how willing the seller and the buyer are to conduct a transaction, as well as the availability of the product. There is no set value on it.

                        But if I were to speculate, a used gun that is not rare would be around 80% of original brand new pricing and then take am additional 10% off for the idiot scratch.
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                        • #13
                          Gutshot Gary
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                          • Jun 2014
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                          Originally posted by Carcassonne
                          If you are selling the gun, it lowers it by $25. If you are buying the gun, it lowers it by 30%.




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                          • #14
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                            • #15
                              hermosabeach
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                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19574

                              If an idiot scratch shows more than holster wear, shoot more
                              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
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