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  • #16
    SILENT GUNMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1468

    I would shoot them. I shoot set back .40 gold dots all the time. I've never had a single problem with them functioning in the gun and I still have all of my fingers. I've done it with Glocks, XDs, Smiths, Sigs, and Rugers. None have ever had a problem with it. Here's an article about it. You may be surprised by the results of the tests.

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    • #17
      357magnum
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 1219

      When 99% of the people tell you not to fire them, because it might not be safe.
      Wonder what the right answer is.
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      • #18
        manywelps
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 503

        No. It causes a much higher instantaneous pressure due to less space in the cartridge, which can destroy or damage your chamber or barrel, not necessarily visibly.

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        • #19
          Lead Waster
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          • Sep 2010
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          Not worth the 50 cents they might cost to replace
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          • #20
            Niviticus
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1227

            Originally posted by MUKAK
            i know what bullet set back is thats why i put them to the side..

            i have also read from diff gun forums that 1911 style pistol should be OK to shoot these
            OP, since you know what bullet setback is and obviously had the good sense to set them aside that should tell you right there. If you feel like trying them out, let us know how it goes. But personally, if I question it I'm not shooting it. I can see if you have a lot of ammo like that and don't want to just waste it, but if it's a few rounds why don't you save yourself from the what if's.

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            • #21
              CK_32
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              • Sep 2010
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              Good god no
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              • #22
                penguinofsleep
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 2070

                no... unless maybe, just maybe, it's much more robust barrel designed for handling very hot rounds (much like how some 9mm sub guns can shoot much hotter loads than most standard 9mm pistols).

                if it were me though, i wouldn't shoot them, strong barrel or no.

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                • #23
                  five.five-six
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2006
                  • 34925

                  Originally posted by MUKAK
                  i have also read from diff gun forums that 1911 style pistol should be OK to shoot these
                  That's because people that shoot ammo like that are pron to losing the ability to operate a keyboard.

                  I'm sure there is some fingerless cheapskate pecking away at a keyboard right now with his nose trying to type: "NO! DON'T DO IT!"


                  And it's a real easy fix with a kinetic puller and a seating die.

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                  • #24
                    five.five-six
                    CGN Contributor
                    • May 2006
                    • 34925

                    Originally posted by MUKAK
                    i have also read from diff gun forums that 1911 style pistol should be OK to shoot these

                    Yup! Good o'll Jeb had himself some setback bullets just like them thair you have. Said he's gona go dun shoot 'em too. Never did hear back from o'll Jeb so wees figureed he's alright, he woulda told us had anything gone wrong. Go ahead and shoot 'em, you'll be just fine.

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                    • #25
                      Lead Waster
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                      • Sep 2010
                      • 16650

                      Risk/benefit analysis of shooting them;

                      Benefit:
                      - You get to shoot three bullets, total cost probably 50 cents

                      Risk:
                      - Your gun is damaged and you have to spend probably more than 50 cents to fix it
                      - You get hurt and your lose vision in one eye or cut your hand or whatever

                      So ... not worth it.
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                      • #26
                        Leethe4th
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                        • Feb 2014
                        • 429

                        Originally posted by SILENT GUNMAN
                        I would shoot them. I shoot set back .40 gold dots all the time. I've never had a single problem with them functioning in the gun and I still have all of my fingers. I've done it with Glocks, XDs, Smiths, Sigs, and Rugers. None have ever had a problem with it. Here's an article about it. You may be surprised by the results of the tests.

                        http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/05/ba...etback-matter/
                        .035" setback is not enough. In fact, that could still be within the OAL for that particular powder and bullet weight. Generally speaking, heavy bullets with fast burning powders are at the most risk. Take it .10" back and the pressure doubles. They did not use a pressure test rig barrel, which is the only way to measure pressure.

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                        • #27
                          Dinosaur Jr
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 1707

                          Originally posted by 71MUSTY
                          Cost of two 45 rounds (even at flipper prices) less than $2.00
                          Value of having all 10 fingers PRICELESS.
                          ^^^^This! Why take completely unnecessary chances?
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                          • #28
                            geoliquid
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 413



                            Originally posted by five.five-six
                            Yup! Good o'll Jeb had himself some setback bullets just like them thair you have. Said he's gona go dun shoot 'em too. Never did hear back from o'll Jeb so wees figureed he's alright, he woulda told us had anything gone wrong. Go ahead and shoot 'em, you'll be just fine.
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                            • #29
                              Victor Cachat
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                              • Apr 2014
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                              Based on the photo, I would not shoot them because they are too fuzzy.
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