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  • #76
    Gottmituns
    Banned
    • Oct 2012
    • 763

    Originally posted by voodoomedman
    Nope. Exemption is for full fledged LEO only.


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    Full fledged as in active? or retired works?

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    • #77
      Renegade1
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 96

      Originally posted by Untamed1972
      I foresee a flood of vacation homes being purchased in AZ. Can anyone say "personal importation form"?
      I'm Waaay ahead of you!

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      • #78
        SDM44
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 3856

        Originally posted by Gottmituns
        Aren't state/local LEO's (active and/or retired) exempt?
        Sorry, I edited my post saying that SD meant South Dakota, not San Diego.

        He's not exempt anymore (per his knowledge), but he can still get any firearm that he wants in the state of South Dakota. Class 3 stuff is also easy to come by for him - still has to file the proper paperwork, but CLEO signatures are easy to come by for him.

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        • #79
          voodoomedman
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 781

          Originally posted by Gottmituns
          Full fledged as in active? or retired works?

          Active I believe.


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          • #80
            voodoomedman
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 781

            Originally posted by tbc
            Become an LEO or apply for an FFL.

            Funny thing is that with an FFL you get to have stuff but in your official inventory. You can't DROS it to yourself if not on roster unless you are LEO.


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            • #81
              riderr
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2013
              • 6539

              Originally posted by brooTool
              you have to be a citizen of the state, which usually requires 6 months of residency
              Where did you get it from? As soon as you a resident of the state, you may buy a handgun

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              • #82
                Sigbird
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 1237

                Originally posted by bwiese
                And these 'flipping' deals will have people going to jail or at least losing their gun rights for felony misrepresentation on 4473s - and this will be a Fed issue piled on top of any CA issue.

                Remember what happened to those Sacramento cops flipping guns?
                What???
                As long as you stay under the legal limit of, I believe 6 guns sold per year? (Someone please quote me on this)you have nothing to worry about.

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                • #83
                  tbc
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 5955

                  Originally posted by voodoomedman
                  Funny thing is that with an FFL you get to have stuff but in your official inventory. You can't DROS it to yourself if not on roster unless you are LEO.


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                  Good to know. Thanks!


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                  • #84
                    deckhandmike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 8324

                    Isn't the effort to overturn the roster going to be decided this summer? I, for the life of me can't understand all the legal jargon in the 2A threads.

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                    • #85
                      John Browning
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2006
                      • 8088

                      Any chance SSE ban doesn't pass? I saw that Fed LEO are not considered roster exempt somewhere. That may help us if true.
                      For Sale: Off Roster Handgun Moving Sale

                      For Sale: Off Roster CZ, Browning, PTR 91 Moving Sale

                      Originally posted by KWalkerM
                      eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                      • #86
                        RKBA-SNBI
                        Gravity Storm Chaser
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 100

                        Originally posted by Untamed1972
                        I foresee a flood of vacation homes being purchased in AZ. Can anyone say "personal importation form"?
                        Or we purchase one home. One address with 10,000 "family members" living there.

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                        • #87
                          metalhead
                          Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 444

                          Originally posted by ShooterStymie
                          My background is in finance and economics. My guess is if/when the SSE ban gets passed, guns without clear alternatives will go up in value the most.

                          I don't want any Glock owners to get their panties in a bunch so I'll use my personal favorite, the Sig P226 & P229 (I vascillate between the two) as an example. In the near term, I don't think the value will skyrocket on those two guns. They have been on the roster a long time so there are plenty in the aftermarket for PPT. I believe the CA versions will stay on the roster. Certainly, people are willing to pay a premium for the non-CA versions of those pistols; but not many would be willing to pay a huge premium.

                          Over the longer term, as the used market is not replenished and more and more guns fall off the roster, then certainly popular guns will continue to gain in value as the supply shrinks. In the near term, I'd guess that off-roster versions of guns like the Sig P226/P229 and Glock 17/19 will go up 20% of their counterparts on-roster. In five years, if nothing changes it could go up to 50% or 100% premium. Now...if the P226/P229 or Glock 17/19 were to fall off the roster entirely, I would heartily agree that the prices could double or triple overnight. They are extremely popular guns and if the only available channel is PPT, it will get crazy.

                          The characteristics of guns that will go up in value right away would be:

                          1. Guns that do not have a counterpart on the roster or have never been on the roster. So, if the roster goes away, I don't think the M&P Shield will necessarily go up in value that much (I have one). It's possible the XDS could go up in value quite a bit because it has never been on the roster AFAIK.

                          2. Guns that haven't been around that long (in other words, not many in the aftermarket). So again, there are tons of P226 and Glock 17 in private hands, and if the price starts creeping higher, people will come out of the woodwork to sell - putting a damper on potential increases at least in the short term. I think guns like the Sig P938 and P227 have a good chance of increasing dramatically in value in the near term. They haven't been around that long and they never been on the roster. Not much used supply around.

                          3. Guns that are in demand. If/when the Ruger SR series falls completely off the roster, I just can't envision people paying dramatically more for them (at least in the near term). Nobody would pay $1000 for a Ruger SR9 while a Glock 17 is available on-roster for $500 or a P226 is available on-roster for $800. Substitution effect will limit price increases for items that aren't category leaders - again, in the short term. In the longer term, if the roster empties out, then obviously every single handgun could skyrocket in value.

                          I'm putting my own personal bets on:
                          Sig P938 (one in the pipeline, maybe one more before end of the year)
                          Sig P227 (one in hand, maybe one more)
                          Dan Wesson Specialist (if I can find one)
                          Dan Wesson ECO 9mm or Kimber Aegis
                          Maybe a high end 1911 to cap off the year (if I can find one)
                          Hi, If you are serious about getting a . Dan Wesson Specialist 1911, PM me

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                          • #88
                            tbc
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 5955

                            Originally posted by RKBA-SNBI
                            Or we purchase one home. One address with 10,000 "family members" living there.

                            Group buy? I am in


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                            • #89
                              mlevans66
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 9516

                              Originally posted by Trenchfoot
                              Make friends with a shady cop
                              Not any moooooore!
                              http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...purchaser-law/
                              The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
                              The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                              I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                              • #90
                                P229enhancedelite
                                Junior Member
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 10

                                Just get all the off roster guns you can get before jan 1, 2015

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