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  • smith and wesson
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 1877

    10mm eaa witness

    I want an eaa 10mm but I keep reading about cracked slides and how bad eaa's customer service is. Do you guys have any experience with these guns?

  • #2
    GardoneVT
    Member
    • Apr 2014
    • 434

    Originally posted by smith and wesson
    I want an eaa 10mm but I keep reading about cracked slides and how bad eaa's customer service is. Do you guys have any experience with these guns?

    Ive got an EAA Witness Steel in 10mm, and love it . Ive shot 200 full power factory rounds through it with no malfunctions, on the stock spring no less.

    Some things to consider. The reason I went with the EAA is because practically speaking I had no choice. The Glock 20 is just to massive for me to shoot comfortably, the 1006 is hard to find and costs $1000+ with shipping and dealer fees, and the 1911 offerings are even more expensive.That left the Witness .

    For the man with a sub 1000 budget, the Witness and the Glock are the only game in town.

    Now, as to the problems. EAAs been importing these guns for over two decades.In spirit it has a lot in common with the Bren Ten being a CZ Derivative,but unlike the Bren actually works.

    Unfortunately, EAA imported a run of bad slides which cracked on the 10mm models . The new pistols now have different slides ,machined to withstand the force of the round.Ive been inspecting my example like a hawk after each range trip looking for cracks or problems. None exist yet.

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    • #3
      smith and wesson
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 1877

      Originally posted by GardoneVT
      Ive got an EAA Witness Steel in 10mm, and love it . Ive shot 200 full power factory rounds through it with no malfunctions, on the stock spring no less.

      Some things to consider. The reason I went with the EAA is because practically speaking I had no choice. The Glock 20 is just to massive for me to shoot comfortably, the 1006 is hard to find and costs $1000+ with shipping and dealer fees, and the 1911 offerings are even more expensive.That left the Witness .

      For the man with a sub 1000 budget, the Witness and the Glock are the only game in town.

      Now, as to the problems. EAAs been importing these guns for over two decades.In spirit it has a lot in common with the Bren Ten being a CZ Derivative,but unlike the Bren actually works.

      Unfortunately, EAA imported a run of bad slides which cracked on the 10mm models . The new pistols now have different slides ,machined to withstand the force of the round.Ive been inspecting my example like a hawk after each range trip looking for cracks or problems. None exist yet.
      Thanks man this really makes me feel better about purchasing it. I've been looking at the glock 29 also, but I can get this one for around 350 and it matches my cz75. I agree with the smith and others being too pricey.

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      • #4
        floogy
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 2741

        Excellent. I'm looking at an RIA 10mm right now. But the EAA is also an option. Plus if SSE goes away in Jan and I buy an RIA or EAA and don't like it, the Glock 20 will still be on roster. Reloading is almost a necessity with 10mm, so if I get one, a reloading setup won't be far behind.

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        • #5
          Seaweed02
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 1650

          Not sub $1000

          I know it is not under $1000 but the Kimber Eclipse Custom II is also available in 10mm. I have one in 45 ACP so I already know how it shoots and how reliable it has been for me. I went to my gun store and ordered one in 10mm for $1315 out the door. I know $1315 is not $1000, but it ain't that far off and for a quality 1911 it is well worth it.

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          • #6
            Tasty
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1829

            My buddy had one. Slide cracked after about 50 rounds if I remember correctly.

            Aside from that, I didn't care for the feel of the gun. The slide was way too small for my liking, but then again I have big ol meat hooks for hands. I have a hard time wearing XXL gloves if they're made out of a material that doesn't stretch.
            As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said "If the day does not require an AK, it is good."

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            • #7
              smith and wesson
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 1877

              Originally posted by floogy
              Excellent. I'm looking at an RIA 10mm right now. But the EAA is also an option. Plus if SSE goes away in Jan and I buy an RIA or EAA and don't like it, the Glock 20 will still be on roster. Reloading is almost a necessity with 10mm, so if I get one, a reloading setup won't be far behind.
              Yea the ria is decently priced and looks great. If I do t end up getting the eaa I'll probably get either a glock 29 or the ria.

              Just look at this sexy beast

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              • #8
                smith and wesson
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 1877

                Originally posted by Tasty
                My buddy had one. Slide cracked after about 50 rounds if I remember correctly.

                Aside from that, I didn't care for the feel of the gun. The slide was way too small for my liking, but then again I have big ol meat hooks for hands. I have a hard time wearing XXL gloves if they're made out of a material that doesn't stretch.
                Dang, do you remember how long ago this was? Most post I've read about cracked slides are from about 2009 to 2012. I'm hoping they fixed the issue.

                If not well on the bright side there are other excellent options out there.

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                • #9
                  smith and wesson
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1877

                  Originally posted by Seaweed02
                  I know it is not under $1000 but the Kimber Eclipse Custom II is also available in 10mm. I have one in 45 ACP so I already know how it shoots and how reliable it has been for me. I went to my gun store and ordered one in 10mm for $1315 out the door. I know $1315 is not $1000, but it ain't that far off and for a quality 1911 it is well worth it.
                  I hope to change jobs soon and then add a kimber 1911 to my collection.

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                  • #10
                    NytWolf
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 3935

                    The ones with the cracked slides are the ones with the "Wonder" finish. Don't skimp out; get one of the more expensive ones (Elite and Hunter) and you won't have to worry about the cracked slides. Then you'll only have to worry about which magazine you got. Some of the old designs have faulty springs and followers, so get them replaced under warranty and you should be fine.

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                    • #11
                      GardoneVT
                      Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 434

                      Originally posted by NytWolf
                      The ones with the cracked slides are the ones with the "Wonder" finish. Don't skimp out; get one of the more expensive ones (Elite and Hunter) and you won't have to worry about the cracked slides. Then you'll only have to worry about which magazine you got. Some of the old designs have faulty springs and followers, so get them replaced under warranty and you should be fine.
                      The newer magazines have black followers. Be advised, I'm not sure EAA makes 10 round mags for the Witness 10mm.I failed to secure any before my visit to CA after scouring the internet for days.

                      The newer guns , Witness Steel or Elite have a square machined slide, which is the one I have. The older guns cracked slides no matter if they were blued or Wonder finish , so long as they had the curved slide design. The fix from EAA to address the failed guns was to slap on an Elite slide -which only come with square machined slides.

                      Bottom line-if the Witness you're looking at has a blocky slide, you're good. If it's only square in the very back near the rear sight, run away.

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                      • #12
                        smith and wesson
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2013
                        • 1877

                        Originally posted by GardoneVT
                        The newer magazines have black followers. Be advised, I'm not sure EAA makes 10 round mags for the Witness 10mm.I failed to secure any before my visit to CA after scouring the internet for days.

                        The newer guns , Witness Steel or Elite have a square machined slide, which is the one I have. The older guns cracked slides no matter if they were blued or Wonder finish , so long as they had the curved slide design. The fix from EAA to address the failed guns was to slap on an Elite slide -which only come with square machined slides.

                        Bottom line-if the Witness you're looking at has a blocky slide, you're good. If it's only square in the very back near the rear sight, run away.
                        The one I'm looking at is similar to the one pictured, do you know if that one would be a problem?

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                        • #13
                          dwtt
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7470

                          I have an EAA Witness in 10mm, and there's no problem with cracked slides. I've shot hundreds of rounds through it and haven't had any problems. I converted it back to .45 ACP a year ago to shoot less expensive ammo. If you shoot 10mm, you will need to reload, or have lots of money for ammo.

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                          • #14
                            GardoneVT
                            Member
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 434

                            Originally posted by smith and wesson
                            The one I'm looking at is similar to the one pictured, do you know if that one would be a problem?
                            Unlikely. The one pictured is a Stock I ,which has always shipped with a square slide.

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                            • #15
                              Tasty
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2011
                              • 1829

                              Originally posted by smith and wesson
                              Dang, do you remember how long ago this was? Most post I've read about cracked slides are from about 2009 to 2012. I'm hoping they fixed the issue.

                              If not well on the bright side there are other excellent options out there.
                              There's a very strong possibility that it was made in that time frame. I'd say it was around 2012 when he got it.
                              As the great warrior poet Ice Cube once said "If the day does not require an AK, it is good."

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