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  • Jimi Jah
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2014
    • 18757

    M&P shield upgrades/mods

    Since these are so popular, are there other aftermarket parts available besides Apex triggers? I would love a .22LR barrel/mag kit for it.

    Another in demand part would be the non-California slide without the rooster tail. Can that part be ordered though S&W?
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    sholling
    I need a LIFE!!
    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2007
    • 10360

    Originally posted by Jimi Jah
    Since these are so popular, are there other aftermarket parts available besides Apex triggers?
    • Crimson Trace and LaserMax make lasers for the Shield.
    • Pearce makes a pinky extension for the flush magazine.
    • Talon Grips makes precut rubber grip-tape for the Shield and Pearce extension.
    • Trijicon and Truglo make sights.


    Another in demand part would be the non-California slide without the rooster tail. Can that part be ordered though S&W?
    For the time being S&W is refusing to sell most of their M&P and Shield replacement parts to the public. I'm not sure if their decision is lawyer driven, or production capacity driven but I suspect it's a bit of both.
    Last edited by sholling; 05-23-2014, 9:16 AM.
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    • #3
      tonyxcom
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2011
      • 6397

      NDZ makes some magazine base plates. Nobody makes a 22 conversion. Good luck on the slide.

      Apex carry kit is a huge upgrade. Factory sights suck and are hard to remove. Just about everyone makes sights now.

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      • #4
        teflondog
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 4011

        I'm breaking my Shield out of jail today. I'm planning to add a Pearce baseplate to the 7 round mag so that my pinky doesn't hang off. I'm also going to color the LCI with flat black paint. Eventually I'll replace the sights since I'm a big fan of Ameriglo Hacks on my Glock. Aside from that, I don't think anything else is necessary for a carry gun.
        Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
        Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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        • #5
          riceman
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2010
          • 483

          I like to keep my ccw guns as stock as possible for future litigation's if it is ever needed. Do u think the Apex carry kit will become a red flag if the gun is ever used for a self defense issue.

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          • #6
            XD40Kyle
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 452

            What sights are recommended? I'd love to upgrade mine

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            • #7
              Sharp Shooter
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 1128

              Originally posted by riceman
              I like to keep my ccw guns as stock as possible for future litigation's if it is ever needed. Do u think the Apex carry kit will become a red flag if the gun is ever used for a self defense issue.
              This has been discussed here before and has generated quite a lively discussion. Some say yes and some say no. I was just in my LGS/Range yesterday. When I inquired about an Apex drop in trigger for my Shield, the employee who's usually very knowledgable said it's not a good idea to modify the trigger on a carry gun due to liability issues if/when a civil case is brought against the shooter.

              I relayed to him the discussions on Cal Guns about this. As far as I know no one here who believes changing the trigger is an added liability has been able to produce any newspaper articles or case law to support their position.

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              • #8
                tonyxcom
                Calguns Addict
                • Aug 2011
                • 6397

                Originally posted by riceman
                I like to keep my ccw guns as stock as possible for future litigation's if it is ever needed. Do u think the Apex carry kit will become a red flag if the gun is ever used for a self defense issue.
                I think this is turning into FUD at this point. If you are claiming you shot the guy in self defense you MEANT to pull the trigger. It doesn't matter the weight.

                Besides, YOUR expert witness could argue that your 4.5lb trigger pull increased your accuracy and that's why JUST the bad guy is dead.

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                • #9
                  teflondog
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 4011

                  Originally posted by Sharp Shooter
                  This has been discussed here before and has generated quite a lively discussion. Some say yes and some say no. I was just in my LGS/Range yesterday. When I inquired about an Apex drop in trigger for my Shield, the employee who's usually very knowledgable said it's not a good idea to modify the trigger on a carry gun due to liability issues if/when a civil case is brought against the shooter.

                  I relayed to him the discussions on Cal Guns about this. As far as I know no one here who believes changing the trigger is an added liability has been able to produce any newspaper articles or case law to support their position.
                  On the flip side, I wasn't able to find any past cases where an aftermarket trigger was used to charge someone in a good shoot.

                  I personally leave my carry guns' triggers stock because I don't want to be one who sets the precedent.
                  Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
                  Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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                  • #10
                    tonyxcom
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 6397

                    This is a pretty good read. Skip to the trigger part if you want.

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                    • #11
                      Kodemonkey
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2904

                      Comp-tac makes holsters and mag carriers.
                      Dawson Precision makes sights for the shield.

                      I've used both on other guns and have no complaints with either. Even replaced some of the blade-techs holsters with comp-tacs.

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                      • #12
                        Legasat
                        Intergalactic Member
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4151

                        Originally posted by teflondog
                        I'm also going to color the LCI with flat black paint.
                        You don't need to paint it. All you need to do is remove S&W's red paint. It is coated underneath the red paint!
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                        • #13
                          Kodemonkey
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 2904

                          Originally posted by tonyxcom
                          I think this is turning into FUD at this point. If you are claiming you shot the guy in self defense you MEANT to pull the trigger. It doesn't matter the weight.

                          Besides, YOUR expert witness could argue that your 4.5lb trigger pull increased your accuracy and that's why JUST the bad guy is dead.

                          I would concur. The landmark case regarding trigger weight was the one in New York eons ago and his defense was his revolver had a "hair trigger" and the gun "went off". He was successfully prosecuted because he was negligent in making the trigger so light that the gun would go off when it wasn't desired.

                          If you have a trigger like that described above, you are negligent. Although the above case was more about trying to beat a murder conviction with some fancy legal tap dancing and it failed horribly (IMHO). But I don't have a problem with using a trigger that has been modified to reduce overtravel, pretravel, and/or trigger weight as long as it doesn't impede the reliability of the gun. My finger isn't ever on the trigger until I am ready to shoot. That's how I train, that's how I compete. That gun is not going to fire until I want it to.

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                          • #14
                            Sharp Shooter
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 1128

                            Originally posted by tonyxcom
                            This is a pretty good read. Skip to the trigger part if you want.
                            http://www.breachbangclear.com/can-t...e-appearances/
                            I found it to be an interesting read, particularly the "Life Activities" section. The fact that we post on Cal Guns and more importantly WHAT WE POST ON CAL GUNS will be brought into evidence at trial and could potentially used against us.

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                            • #15
                              glock_this
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 8225

                              check mine out... for some photos and ideas: talons, lasermax, pearce, holster, truglos...

                              Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                              Another in demand part would be the non-California slide without the rooster tail. Can that part be ordered though S&W?
                              why buy a $$$$ new slide for a new gun? you could (1) grind down the nub that pops the LCI so it never pops up (2) get a machine shop to make an LCI matched part that has no nub and no writing or paint and replace yours (3) live with it as who really cares
                              Last edited by glock_this; 05-23-2014, 4:32 PM.
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