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  • #16
    KShack
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 705

    That's kind if of a bummer. I'll probably end up going for the m92 like you said. It looks like it'll be a great plinker and fun toy to take out to the desert
    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

    Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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    • #17
      Quiet
      retired Goon
      • Mar 2007
      • 30242

      Originally posted by KShack
      Do any of you happen to know if there are ak 74 pistols on the market?
      FB Radom USA LLC, based in TX, will be importing semi-auto AK style pistols in 5.45x39mm [(make) FB Radom USA (model) Onyks 89S].
      This is also the reason why surplus steel-core 5.45x39mm has now been banned from importation into the USA due to it being re-classified as AP handgun ammo.

      Prior to this there were no 5.45x39mm actively being made for sale to the civilian market in the USA because of fears that it would get surplus 5.45x39mm ammo banned as AP handgun ammo.

      Now that the surplus 5.45x39mm ammo has been banned, expect more firearm manufacturers to now offer 5.45x39mm handguns.
      Last edited by Quiet; 05-10-2014, 2:09 PM.
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      "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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      • #18
        SoberClurichaun
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 1437

        Go look on the deals section they have the pap pistol for 400!
        "The tyrant will always find a pretext for his tyranny."
        -Aesop's Fables The Wolf and the Lamb.

        WTS Toth Tools, AK misc, and Streamlight TLR3
        http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...3#post19963273

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        • #19
          KShack
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 705

          Quiet wouldn't this already have happened to 7.62x39 or even 5.56? Since both have 'pistol' varients
          "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

          Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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          • #20
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30242

            Originally posted by KShack
            Quiet wouldn't this already have happened to 7.62x39 or even 5.56? Since both have 'pistol' varients
            It happened with 7.62x39mm back in the early-1990s.
            Olympic Arms made an AR style pistol in 7.62x39mm, which got the surplus steel-core 7.62x39mm ammo banned from importation due to it be reclassified as AP handgun ammo.

            The M855/SS109 5.56x45mm is not considered AP handgun ammo because it was specifically exempted by BATFE.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #21
              KShack
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 705

              Well that isn't good. Is that 7.62 ban still in effect?
              "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

              Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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              • #22
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by KShack
                Well that isn't good. Is that 7.62 ban still in effect?
                Yes.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #23
                  KShack
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 705

                  Good to know. Thanks for all the gouge
                  "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

                  Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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                  • #24
                    phase1
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1753

                    The ban is just on surplus
                    Originally posted by Intimid8tor
                    I don't need one but I might need one.

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                    • #25
                      kyo216
                      Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 137

                      How do these AK pistols shoot? Is the recoil manageable?

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                      • #26
                        civic23
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 129

                        Ak pistol

                        Got a ak m92 pap pistol in jail right from rifle gear.com $499 and ordered the ak 47 brace and Midwest industries keymod rail-- can't wait -- sold as a single shot to my ffl and shipped a mag to my house

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                        • #27
                          KShack
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 705

                          Do you know how many they have left in stock?
                          "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

                          Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

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                          • #28
                            civic23
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 129

                            When I called about 2 weeks ago they said 20ish -- but that was 2 weeks ago-- online they still have it available -- you should order it online now and give them a call on Monday -- they ship out quick to your ffl to -- order online and lock that bad boy up

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                            • #29
                              civic23
                              Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 129

                              For recoil management I'm ordering the manticore night break and the new pistol brace will do the rest

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