$56.39 for PPT!?!

[Vicious_138]

So I go to a LGS to do a PPT for an XDs. We both fill out our paperwork, and he does all the DROS entry, and tells the seller they are done and can leave, which they do. Then he logs the gun and my info into their system.

Then he tells me my total is $56.39! I already had $35 on the counter for the transfer.
I told him it is $35 set by law by CA. He says they charge $19 for doing the paperwork! He told me they are "the cheapest in town"! I argued with him about for a few mins, but at this point the seller is gone, and I don't really want to mess with un-doing it all since it's off roster and the seller is gone.
So the receipt says DROS $25 + transfer fee $29 + tax = $56.39

Now I let it go for now, for my transfer. But when I pick it up I plan on making a point.

Am I right that CA has a set fee of $35 for PPT? And why are they charging tax on a transfer, it isn't goods it's a service?
I have done many other PPTs, and it was always $35

So when I pick it up, I plan on making him give a refund on the extra, assuming I am right about the set fee. Or I will take this further and make some phone calls.

Any paperwork I can bring into prove the $35 set price, and who can I call if they refuse to honor the $35?

[shooting4life]

Bring paperwork, you can find the code section. Let them read it and ask nicely for a refund, because mistakes happen.

Then tell the gun shop that if they don't refund the difference you will call the ca doj and let them know that the gun shop is breaking the law.

[Virus55]

Thats ridiculous! Ive done 3-4 ppts and 3 were done at different shops. All for $35

[riderr]

Talk to the manager/owner. They have just violated the Penal Code

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#13

[Lead Waster]

From the Office of the Attorney General;

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What fees can I charge for handling a Private Party Transfer (PPT)?

If the transaction is a PPT, in addition to the state fees, you may charge up to $10.00 or less per firearm for conducting the PPT. For example:

For a PPT involving one or more handguns, the total allowable fees are $35.00 for the first handgun

[Lead Waster]

And to elaborate on PC 28055

28055. (a) For a sale, loan, or transfer conducted pursuant to this
chapter, the purchaser or transferee or person being loaned the
firearm may be required by the dealer to pay a fee not to exceed ten
dollars ($10) per firearm.
(b) No other fee may be charged by the dealer for a sale, loan, or
transfer of a firearm conducted pursuant to this chapter, except for
the applicable fees that may be charged pursuant to Sections 23690
and 28300 and Article 3 (commencing with Section 28200) of Chapter 6
and forwarded to the Department of Justice, and the fees set forth in
Section 31650.
(c) The dealer may not charge any additional fees.
(d) Nothing in these provisions shall prevent a dealer from
charging a smaller fee.

[sigfan91]

Get your gun in hand first before you do anything.

After taking possession, then ask for a refund by showing the state code. Tell the clerk that you will contact DOJ for violating state law.

[SlickmisterN]

Illegal. And that shop is going to get in trouble, keep the receipt and all paperwork. If they dont refund call cal doj and tell them the shop is profiting above and beyond what is prescribed in the law.

God i wish the shop was Guns, Fishing, & More in Vacaville cause they suck and pull made up bs on people all the time.

[riderr]

Get your gun in hand first before you do anything.

After taking possession, then ask for a refund by showing the state code. Tell the clerk that you will contact DOJ for violating state law.

Smart

[BumBum]

While I cringe at the thought of going after the endangered species that is the gun shop as they are very important to our RKBA, I have little tolerance for businesses that take advantage of consumers in violation of what is very clear law.

[riderr]

While I cringe at the thought of going after the endangered species that is the gun shop as they are very important to our RKBA, I have little tolerance for businesses that take advantage of consumers in violation of what is very clear law.

Yet, might be a simple clerk misunderstanding.

[rm1911]

Let me get this straight. We live in a state that is the most hostile to the 2A. The amount of laws this state has that violate the constitution are too numerous to list. This state is the very definition of criminal enterprise.

Then as soon as an FFL does something we don't like we whine to the very same state that treats us like criminals and enemies. And so now you whine for "justice" from doj?

Man, I've seen everything now.

[Vicious_138]

I do plan on waiting till I pick it up, just to be safe.

Thanks guys for giving me the PC links.

I don't think it was a misunderstanding, because I was very clear that it was set at $25 for DROS and $10 for transfer, that's when he said it was a fee for the time to do the paperwork. Also this was just an employee, but the owner was sitting at his desk about 8 feet away, I am sure he heard the situation. He didn't get up to set anything straight.
I will make a big stink about it after I pick it up. It's only $20, but it's the point that it's not right, and how many other ppl that don't know are getting ripped off.
Is there sales tax involved with PPT? I didn't think there was any since it is a service, and not goods.

[Vicious_138]

Let me get this straight. We live in a state that is the most hostile to the 2A. The amount of laws this state has that violate the constitution are too numerous to list. This state is the very definition of criminal enterprise.

Then as soon as an FFL does something we don't like we whine to the very same state that treats us like criminals and enemies. And so now you whine for "justice" from doj?

Man, I've seen everything now.

I get what ur saying, but it's still not right.
So ur ok with the shop violating the law and ripping ppl off?
I don't really want to call the DOJ, but they r ripping off the gun community. Many ppl probly don't know what it should cost.

[Lead Waster]

Let me get this straight. We live in a state that is the most hostile to the 2A. The amount of laws this state has that violate the constitution are too numerous to list. This state is the very definition of criminal enterprise.

Then as soon as an FFL does something we don't like we whine to the very same state that treats us like criminals and enemies. And so now you whine for "justice" from doj?

Man, I've seen everything now.

What on earth are you talking about. The state is reaming us on just paying the $25 for DROS and we pay it because that's the law. We DROS because that's the law, we do SSE to follow the law. WE follow the laws because we are responsible law abiding citizens. The LGS made a mistake in charging a transfer fee for a PPT and they are breaking the law by doing so. If we play by the rules, we all should play by the rules.

Nobody is "running whining to the state", OP was charged too much. He's the only person in all of California paying more than $35 for PPT. Why should he suck that up. That's a box of ammo right there. Would you go into any store, hand the clerk $20 and walk away without getting anything for it? Probably not.