Glock Connector Set Up.

[JWHuey]

IMO the best thing you can do for your G21 is to buy 1000 rounds of 45 ACP and go to the range/take a defensive handgun course. Run the gun and then run it some more. When all is done, clean it and you are GTG!

The trigger definitely gets better with use.

+1
One of the few ways you can make a Glock malfunction is to modify the internals.

Tricking out a Glock is great for competitive shooters for sure.
For SD or HD I, personally wouldn't muck with it.

The only time I have ever had a Glock not run 100% was when I had Glockstore install LW trigger/firing pin/disconnector parts in my 23.

Never again for me. I love my Glocks stock.

[DArBad]

I do agree with " 1911su16b870 " AND " JWHuey ".

More practise is good, don't meddle with stock parts, unless one knows how things work.

That said, I want the " BEST " setup for ME from the get go. If I will burn 1000 rounds of ammo, I want to burn those ammo with an optimal set equipment(within reason, of course).

I do have over 1000 rounds stash and will soon hit the range.

[shooterfpga]

You dont need 1000rds to know you hate something.

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[DArBad]

You dont need 1000rds to know you hate something.

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Hey Shooterfpga,

You read my mind. I know I do not like the factory plastic stock guide rod & cheesy flat recoil spring, so I already ordered an " upgraded " Wolff Stainless Steel.

[plsmyk]

I have the "-" connector/NY1 spring setup in my Gen 3 G17. The NY1 spring makes the trigger reset quicker/snappier at the expense of a bit heavier trigger pull. It's a decent setup for a gun meant to be used as a defense gun, but most will probably like the feel of stock trigger better. I've gotten used to the heavier pull ( as a plus, the break is a bit crisper/less mushy than the stock setup ) so I don't really think to much about unless I shoot it back to back with a gun with the stock setup or a "-" connector and stock trigger return spring.

It's a cheap experiment. Try it and see what you think.

[DArBad]

I have the "-" connector/NY1 spring setup in my Gen 3 G17. The NY1 spring makes the trigger reset quicker/snappier at the expense of a bit heavier trigger pull. It's a decent setup for a gun meant to be used as a defense gun, but most will probably like the feel of stock trigger better. I've gotten used to the heavier pull ( as a plus, the break is a bit crisper/less mushy than the stock setup ) so I don't really think to much about unless I shoot it back to back with a gun with the stock setup or a "-" connector and stock trigger return spring.

It's a cheap experiment. Try it and see what you think.

plsmyk,

When you post "-" you meant the 3.5 lbs. connector, right??

[plsmyk]

Yes...although now what used to be called the 3.5 lb connector is actually called the 4.5 lb connector. Whatever it's supposed to be called, it's the one with the "-" mark stamped on it and the less steep connector tab angle. IIRC, the stock connector isn't marked with any kind of stamping.

[DArBad]

Yes...although now what used to be called the 3.5 lb connector is actually called the 4.5 lb connector. Whatever it's supposed to be called, it's the one with the "-" mark stamped on it and the less steep connector tab angle. IIRC, the stock connector isn't marked with any kind of stamping.

Thank you, plsmyk.

[plsmyk]

DArBad,

Try it and see what you think. But don't just swap in the "-" connector/NY1 spring, pull the trigger a few times, decide it's too heavy, and swap the parts right back out. Actually live with the setup for a while. By that that I mean practice your trigger pull by dry firing a bunch and putting some rounds through it before you decide.

IMHO the stock trigger setup or the "-" connector/NY trigger spring setup are best for a defensive gun. If God forbid, you ever have use the gun to protect you or yours, your body is going to be in "fight or flight" mode, i.e. your heart will be pounding and your fine motor skills will deteriorate. I don't think it's a good time for a lighter than stock trigger pull.

For a range gun, then do what ever makes you happy!

[Bad Caselaw]

Hey Shooterfpga,

You read my mind. I know I do not like the factory plastic stock guide rod & cheesy flat recoil spring, so I already ordered an " upgraded " Wolff Stainless Steel.

SD/HD is neither fashion show nor mall ninja contest. It's about makin' the bad man stop when things go bump in the night (when out on parole).

The Glock OEM 4.5lb "-" connector is the one they put in their G34/G35 Comp/Practical-tactical pistols.

It is the ONLY non-stock as shipped part on any of my Glocks, including those damn extended slide-lock levers, that have all been 100% reliable for Thousands of rounds over decades.

Change those "factory plastic stock guide rod & cheesy flat recoil springs" every 5-10k rounds or when they fail a battery test. (you will be happy to learn that the dual RSA's are round section coil.)






Caselaw

[DArBad]

SD/HD is neither fashion show nor mall ninja contest. It's about makin' the bad man stop when things go bump in the night (when out on parole).

Change those "factory plastic stock guide rod & cheesy flat recoil springs" every 5-10k rounds or when they fail a battery test. (you will be happy to learn that the dual RSA's are round section coil.)






Caselaw

I hear ya, Caselaw.

However, in my new Glock, the "end button" of the stock plastic guide rod, has already started to deteriorate after just several times of assembling/disassembling the gun, and " several " times of racking/dry firing.

Not to mention the fact that it is aesthetically unappealing, I just wanted a steel guide rod with an UNCAPTIVE recoil spring. That's all.

[shooterfpga]

Just received my 3.5 ghost edge. Wow it feels nice but still has that glock feel. Unless you get a complete aftermarket trigger I dont think its gonna go away.

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[Tripper]

Yeah, if it absolutely has to work, every time.

If you ever get another, there are a LOT of things I can do to a Glock to make it run super tight, with a pillow-weight trigger.

what would you do?

i have thousands of rounds in each of mine, all stock, but, i have a second 23, i thought i'd muck with a bit, what do you have in mind that you would do?

[Bad Caselaw]

I hear ya, Caselaw.

However, in my new Glock, the "end button" of the stock plastic guide rod, has already started to deteriorate after just several times of assembling/disassembling the gun, and " several " times of racking/dry firing.

Not to mention the fact that it is aesthetically unappealing, I just wanted a steel guide rod with an UNCAPTIVE recoil spring. That's all.

I don't understand. I have disassembled/reassembled a half-dozen Glocks Hundreds of times each, through Thousands of rounds.

Get a new Glock OEM RSA.

For a SD/HD pistol what you Really, Really want is a gun that goes "Bang!" every time. Aftermarket parts ARE the reason Glocks fail.

eg. Range buddy got a Big-ticket GlockClone SS guide RSA for his G36, to help tame recoil and replace the cheap-*** OEM part.

Fourth round through the first mag after he installed it? The slide eats the front end cup and locks up hard, midway into battery, frozen. Took about 15 minutes to get it unjammed.

It's OK though, the Big-ticket store offered to replace the RSA for Free.






Caselaw

[DArBad]

Case,

By " end button " I meant the end of the OEM rod sticking out of the front of the gun. When I retract the slide by a little bit, that " end button " is not perfectly straight as it came from the box and leaning to one side. I was so pissed with that lean, I tried straightening it just so it would be " aesthetically " pleasing and straight.

But in so doing, the part now is practically deteriorated from my " not so strong " push. Really, I find that end part very flimsy and quite easy to tear out.

My ordered steel guide rod is supposed to arrive tomorrow (Saturday) and I will be happy to get rid of that " despicable " plastic guide rod. I realized you prefer to keep things original. I, on the otherhand want an upgraded look.

Any negative consequence of using the Wolff Stainless Guide rod, I will let all of you know.........and you can all blame me for not listening.

But I am a tinkerer at heart, I just can't leave things alone. As a matter of fact, I already have several projects for my Glock 21 lined up.

I do have a couple of Kimber Custom IIs for HD, just in case I bugger my Glock project.

Cheers.