glock 34 trigger upgrade

[hemiguy55]

I'm looking at upgrading my g34 trigger to one day shoot in a competition. I see that glockworx offers an adjustable trigger and so does Robert Vogel. Is one better than another? Does anyone like/dislike one more than the other?

[Corbin Dallas]

I suggest you read each rule book before committing lots of money to upgradrs like these.

In idpa you will get bumped to esp out of ssp.

Im not sure in uspsa but I beleive you would get bumped to limited ot limited 10 out of production.

[DRAB_81]

Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with the stock trigger?

All the aftermarket triggers (Zev, Glocktriggers, Vanek, SAI etc) are good, but honestly the only person that can say which one is better for you, is you. It's all personal preference. I tried out a couple different trigger configurations (including a $225 Vanek) and long story short, all my triggers are back to stock & staying that way. I shoot USPSA, and I figured out that I shoot faster & more consistent with the stock trigger.

[nikki#2]

I'm looking at upgrading my g34 trigger to one day shoot in a competition. I see that glockworx offers an adjustable trigger and so does Robert Vogel. Is one better than another? Does anyone like/dislike one more than the other?

Cool! BTW.... What kind of competition (and what classification)? Yes, it does matter, there are restrictions.

[Oceanbob]

The G34/35 triggers are fine just out of the box.

[RobertMW]

I'm looking at upgrading my g34 trigger to one day shoot in a competition. I see that glockworx offers an adjustable trigger and so does Robert Vogel. Is one better than another? Does anyone like/dislike one more than the other?

Before you spend $200 on a new trigger drop in, do your research online. There is a lot you can do with your stock internals to make it better. And if there is one part you can replace for better performance it is your trigger connector.

http://www.uckfup.dk/content/view/13/14/ (unfinished, but good things)

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/ Loads of info on competition guns of all types, there is a tupperware (plastic guns) section.

http://www.Ghostinc.com they sell aftermarket trigger connectors. The connectors with the adjustable trigger stop (Rocket, EVO) eliminate overtravel.

My IPSC/USPSA gun is a Glock 35 with a Ghost Rocket trigger connector. Light springs. Polished internals, and in a couple MINOR cases some light stonework to smooth out stamped metal edges that rub. And last but not least I peened the slide rails to get the lockup better, that helps accuracy by making the trigger more consistant. In a striker gun you have half your firing mechanism in the slide, rather than just a hammer, getting the two halves to sit the same way every time makes the trigger pull the same every time. It also has a Stainless guide rod, 15lb recoil spring (I run 165 pf loads, so a little lighter than box .40 ammo), grip tape, and fiber-optic sights.

Everything above is legal in SSP, and production (although I would not use a 35 for either, use a 9mm.) I run in limited, so I have also added a large mouth mag-well and have done a little grinding around the mouth of the mag-well to help magazines drop out cleanly every time. This is a no-go in both SSP and Production.

Adding an aftermarket trigger assembly takes you out of SSP and production division.

[Kodemonkey]

Glockworx triggers do a lot for pre-travel and overtravel. I've got one in a G21. I have Charlie Vanek triggers in the G35 and G23. The G23 has a GSSF legal kit (Glock parts but tuned and polished). The G35 has a Vanek super trigger.

To be honest, the GSSF trigger is like a smoothed out stock trigger with a lighter pull. I like it because it is stock Glock parts. I had a problem with the super trigger and sent it back to Charlie Vanek. Guy wrote me a personal check for my postage and fixed it same day. Great service.

Bob Vogel's stuff is probably pretty good. I took one of his classes and if he said it once he said it 20 times; "I error on the side of reliability". He won't do anything that will jeapordize the reliability of the gun. Because if you think about it, one light strike is going to cost you 1-2 seconds. It's not worth it in competition at his level. You can overcome a heavy trigger pull with practice. And seriously, the G34/35 triggers are pretty good out of the box. Dry fire it 2000 times and it will smooth out a little.

Everything I have done with triggers is a compromise. You want it to run reliably, stay with stock.

Nice thing about Glocks is that they are easy to change out and play with.

[teflondog]

I think you should first do a 25 cent trigger job and lube the polished contact points afterwards. Then decide if you still want to change the parts out.

[nikki#2]

Nice thing about Glocks is that they are easy to change out and play with.

^ +1. My G34 is a game gun... Not my game gun + my HD gun. I have a ton of fun changing out springs, triggers, etc., etc., etc., etc., you name it !!! I say, "Have at it and have some fun!

[kmca]

Before you spend $200 on a new trigger drop in, do your research online. There is a lot you can do with your stock internals to make it better. And if there is one part you can replace for better performance it is your trigger connector.

http://www.uckfup.dk/content/view/13/14/ (unfinished, but good things)

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/ Loads of info on competition guns of all types, there is a tupperware (plastic guns) section.

http://www.Ghostinc.com they sell aftermarket trigger connectors. The connectors with the adjustable trigger stop (Rocket, EVO) eliminate overtravel.

My IPSC/USPSA gun is a Glock 35 with a Ghost Rocket trigger connector. Light springs. Polished internals, and in a couple MINOR cases some light stonework to smooth out stamped metal edges that rub. And last but not least I peened the slide rails to get the lockup better, that helps accuracy by making the trigger more consistant. In a striker gun you have half your firing mechanism in the slide, rather than just a hammer, getting the two halves to sit the same way every time makes the trigger pull the same every time. It also has a Stainless guide rod, 15lb recoil spring (I run 165 pf loads, so a little lighter than box .40 ammo), grip tape, and fiber-optic sights.

Everything above is legal in SSP, and production (although I would not use a 35 for either, use a 9mm.) I run in limited, so I have also added a large mouth mag-well and have done a little grinding around the mouth of the mag-well to help magazines drop out cleanly every time. This is a no-go in both SSP and Production.

Adding an aftermarket trigger assembly takes you out of SSP and production division.

I know Glockworx makes a production legal trigger
BTW, if you get "caught" with an illegal trigger in USPSA, you're in open.

[nikki#2]

BTW, if you get "caught" with an illegal trigger in USPSA, you're in open.

Honor system: A philosophical way of running a variety of endeavors based on trust, honor, and honesty.

[Lead Waster]

^^ I don't see the point in cheating in a game. If you win in production division and you are running a gun that doesn't follow the rules, then you didn't really win.

[nikki#2]

^^ I don't see the point in cheating in a game. If you win in production division and you are running a gun that doesn't follow the rules, then you didn't really win.

If you were looking for a debate, I've got Lance Armstrong's # around here somewhere.........

[kmca]

If you were looking for a debate, I've got Lance Armstrong's # around here somewhere.........

Not the same thing. There's not enough money involved for most people to sacrifice their honor.

[hemiguy55]

i dont like the looooong pull. id like something quick and clean.

Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with the stock trigger?

All the aftermarket triggers (Zev, Glocktriggers, Vanek, SAI etc) are good, but honestly the only person that can say which one is better for you, is you. It's all personal preference. I tried out a couple different trigger configurations (including a $225 Vanek) and long story short, all my triggers are back to stock & staying that way. I shoot USPSA, and I figured out that I shoot faster & more consistent with the stock trigger.