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  • #31
    6114DAVE
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 4083

    Originally posted by USN CHIEF
    Well, if I were you and was limited on the funds, I would first do some more research on the gun that you really like and you have shot. I would then be spending some time on the for sale section of Cal guns and before you know it someone will be posting that gun that you want for a cheaper price.

    S&W sigma is a very cheap gun, but do not be fooled by their price. I have one in 9mm and I have tried just about everything for it to break and the dang thing will not break and will fire each time I squeeze the trigger. Very accurate gun too.

    One question for you. I have been meaning to go to the gun store at camp pendleton. Do you know if they charge sales tax on guns/ammo?
    From what i heard from a fairly reliable source (my SNCOIC) they do not charge the tax! good deal!

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    • #32
      11Z50
      Banned
      • Sep 2002
      • 1997

      Originally posted by USN CHIEF
      S&W sigma is a very cheap gun, but do not be fooled by their price. I have one in 9mm and I have tried just about everything for it to break and the dang thing will not break and will fire each time I squeeze the trigger. Very accurate gun too.
      I have owned the SW9G (I hate the name "Sigma", it sounds like something else) for about 5 years now and I have to say it's a good gun. It had a failure to fire problem when I first got it, so I sent it back to Smith. I got it back in less than one week! I has shot great since and my experience is like the Chief's; it shoots and shoots and shoots. There is a rebate going on too!

      I'd also look at the M&P. I have one in .45 and it's a superb carry gun.

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      • #33
        Lonestar49
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 25

        Maybe look into a Beretta NIB

        ...

        If your wife is gonna put some time in with ya at the range before you get deployed, and you want a gun that will eat anything, be dependable, even in-between long periods of cleaning, and remain reliable, be accurate, soft-shooting i.e. muzzle flip/recoil-wise, I would steer ya towards a Beretta Px4 9mm 10+1 or 14+1 depending on where you live. But it has one of the best NIB DA/SA triggers you'll find, along with a safety/decocker in one, that IF you do not want a safety, it can be converted easily, quickly, to a G-model decocker only..

        The action on them is like butter, smooth, and easy, especially for the Mrs's.

        It comes with 3 backstraps so you both can customize the grip, especially when you deploy and you can quickly change them to suit her grip better.

        Also, one of, IF not, the easiest guns to disassemble, inspect, clean, and reassemble, out there, bar none..

        9mm ammo is affordable, and has excellent JHP choices to offer for SD/HD needs..

        Accurate, fast follow-up shots on target, is there, all the time, anytime, every-time..

        NIB cost are from 450 - 500 bucks.. 3yr warranty


        Rotating barrel helps absorb recoil while keeping the barrel aligned without any movement (no tilt-up load cycles).


        Luck,


        Ls


        Customized (not mine)




        NIB - as is



        my Px4 40cal w/6450 flawless rounds
        Last edited by Lonestar49; 08-03-2008, 8:25 PM.
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        • #34
          6114DAVE
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 4083

          Originally posted by 11Z50
          I have owned the SW9G (I hate the name "Sigma", it sounds like something else) for about 5 years now and I have to say it's a good gun. It had a failure to fire problem when I first got it, so I sent it back to Smith. I got it back in less than one week! I has shot great since and my experience is like the Chief's; it shoots and shoots and shoots. There is a rebate going on too!

          I'd also look at the M&P. I have one in .45 and it's a superb carry gun.
          that's two experienced shooters who say positive things of the S&W "sigma" hmm definitely worth a second look and some range time.

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          • #35
            6114DAVE
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 4083

            Originally posted by Lonestar49
            ...

            If your wife is gonna put some time in with ya at the range before you get deployed, and you want a gun that will eat anything, be dependable, even in-between long periods of cleaning, and remain reliable, be accurate, soft-shooting i.e. muzzle flip/recoil-wise, I would steer ya towards a Beretta Px4 9mm 10+1 or 14+1 depending on where you live. But it has one of the best NIB DA/SA triggers you'll find, along with a safety/decocker in one, that IF you do not want a safety, it can be converted easily, quickly, to a G-model decocker only..

            The action on them is like butter, smooth, and easy, especially for the Mrs's.

            It comes with 3 backstraps so you both can customize the grip, especially when you deploy and you can quickly change them to suit her grip better.

            Also, one of, IF not, the easiest guns to disassemble, inspect, clean, and reassemble, out there, bar none..

            9mm ammo is affordable, and has excellent JHP choices to offer for SD/HD needs..

            Accurate, fast follow-up shots on target, is there, all the time, anytime, every-time..

            NIB cost are from 450 - 500 bucks.. 3yr warranty


            Rotating barrel helps absorb recoil while keeping the barrel aligned without any movement (no tilt-up load cycles).


            Luck,


            Ls


            Customized (not mine)




            NIB - as is



            my Px4 40cal w/6450 flawless rounds
            thats the "storm" right? ease of use and a softer recoil score points for my wife. oh this is turning into a real dilemna for me LOL

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            • #36
              USN CHIEF
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2007
              • 11540

              If you can plan a trip down to SD, I would be more than happy to let you and your wife shoot the guns that I have to see what you like the most. I have two H&K USP .40's, 1 "Sigama" 9mm, 1 H&K P2000 9mm (That both you and your wife will love) and few high end 1911's. All you have to do is drive down here and bring ammo for the calibers that you want to shoot. Just let me know.
              Originally posted by tankerman
              I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
              Originally posted by Douglas711
              Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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              • #37
                CSACANNONEER
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2006
                • 44094

                If you want it for home protection, get a wheelgun. In a high stress situation, if you have a failure to fire, stovepipe or forget how to use the safety, youn could die. With a DA revolver, these problems don't exist! If you feel you are going to NEED more than six rounds, you should either learn how to shoot or been smart enough to avoid the situation all together. Most gunfights either end after the first shot or no one gets hit. so, just learn to shoot and everything will be OK.
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                • #38
                  6114DAVE
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 4083

                  Originally posted by USN CHIEF
                  If you can plan a trip down to SD, I would be more than happy to let you and your wife shoot the guns that I have to see what you like the most. I have two H&K USP .40's, 1 "Sigama" 9mm, 1 H&K P2000 9mm (That both you and your wife will love) and few high end 1911's. All you have to do is drive down here and bring ammo for the calibers that you want to shoot. Just let me know.
                  Thanks you very much Chief! I would really like that! I gotta talk to the wifey first since we have our little onebut that sounds really good especially since the local range here rapes you if you wanna shoot more than 50 rds of their ammo.

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                  • #39
                    USN CHIEF
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11540

                    Originally posted by 6114DAVE
                    Thanks you very much Chief! I would really like that! I gotta talk to the wifey first since we have our little onebut that sounds really good especially since the local range here rapes you if you wanna shoot more than 50 rds of their ammo.
                    I go to BLM land here in San Diego so you don't have to worry about the range fees and you can bring the entire family. Wall Mart sells ammo at a very good price for the 9mm, .40 and .45.
                    Originally posted by tankerman
                    I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
                    Originally posted by Douglas711
                    Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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                    • #40
                      1911su16b870
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 7654

                      Originally posted by 6114DAVE
                      what class should i take? I see youre in the Los angeles area. I go to Compton\south central every weekend. what range do you know of that has these classes of which you speak?
                      For a first firearm, IMO something in 9mm, XD9, 92FS, Glock17 or Sig 226.

                      Training in Compton/South Central:



                      "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

                      NRA Endowment Life Member, CRPA Life Member
                      GLOCK (Gen 1-5, G42/43), Colt AR15/M16/M4, Sig P320, Sig P365, Beretta 90 series, Remington 870, HK UMP Factory Armorer
                      Remington Nylon, 1911, HK, Ruger, Hudson H9 Armorer, just for fun!
                      I instruct it if you shoot it.

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                      • #41
                        6114DAVE
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 4083

                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        If you want it for home protection, get a wheelgun. In a high stress situation, if you have a failure to fire, stovepipe or forget how to use the safety, youn could die. With a DA revolver, these problems don't exist! If you feel you are going to NEED more than six rounds, you should either learn how to shoot or been smart enough to avoid the situation all together. Most gunfights either end after the first shot or no one gets hit. so, just learn to shoot and everything will be OK.

                        I was actually looking into a snub nose .357 mag later on down the road as a "put it on the nightstand before i go to sleep gun or an extra gun but right now im looking to get a non-revolver type pistol. very good point though..thx

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                        • #42
                          6114DAVE
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 4083

                          Originally posted by 1911su16b870
                          For a first firearm, IMO something in 9mm, XD9, 92FS, Glock17 or Sig 226.

                          Training in Compton/South Central:



                          http://www.laxrange.com/specials.shtm
                          Thank you! that place in torrance is not that far from me!

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                          • #43
                            6114DAVE
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 4083

                            I dont know im starting to like the sigma....might go check it out at the store tomorrow! cant beat the price

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                            • #44
                              11Z50
                              Banned
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 1997

                              Glad you're keeping an open mind. Oh, BTW, if you transfer out of the PRK you can get 17 round mags for the Sigma 9mm.

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                              • #45
                                1lostinspace
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 7848

                                GLOCK
                                There are sniper everywhere and nowhere.....who knows what is out there.

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