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  • 1911Luvr
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1824

    A Nazi 1911?

    I had read before about the Norwegian 1911s, but I never knew there were some with the Nazi QC stamp!



    And you can own one:
    I voted against Obama before it was cool.

    Originally posted by 1911Luvr
    I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!
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    redcliff
    Calguns Addict
    • Feb 2008
    • 5676

    Originally posted by 1911Luvr
    I had read before about the Norwegian 1911s, but I never knew there were some with the Nazi QC stamp!



    And you can own one:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...=395159079#PIC
    I don't see any Nazi marks on that one on Gunbroker, plus it is missing the original barrel.

    Our resident 1911 collector "beetle" did a nice write-up on his in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=512066
    Last edited by redcliff; 02-24-2014, 12:48 PM.
    "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
    "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
    "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

    "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
    although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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    • #3
      1911Luvr
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 1824

      My bad on the sale link-unfortunately the photos show up so small on my phone I could not tell if the left side front markings were the nazi stamp or other stamp.

      Still a good read though!
      I voted against Obama before it was cool.

      Originally posted by 1911Luvr
      I beg to differ. The full length dust cover rail makes a world of difference in the "when I run out of bullets I'm going to beat you to death with the pistol" look that causes bad guys to run in fear, and lesser men to feel inadequate. It looks just plain beastly and the extra heft up front does help manage recoil a bit better. Plus, an angel told me that when God called JMB to heaven it was to build him a full rail 1911!

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      • #4
        beetle
        The Clip guy
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 1677

        Originally posted by redcliff
        I don't see any Nazi marks on that one on Gunbroker, plus it is missing the original barrel.

        Our resident 1911 collector "beetle" did a nice write-up on his in this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=512066
        LOL it's the same one. I've been doing some moonlighting on the side writing for TTAG.

        don't worry, I usually post my original content on calguns first

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        • #5
          Lead Waster
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Sep 2010
          • 16650

          Man, every time I see beetle's gorgeous 1911 I'm stunned by the bluing. I mean, it's just incredible, like jewelry. Especially when I then look at my RIA Tactical, which looks like I painted it with black house paint (parkerizing or whatever).

          The word "Gorgeous" is the only word I can think of, and I'm hard pressed to say that unmanly word, but no other words describe the deepness of that bluing.
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          Forget about stopping power. If you can't hit it, you can't stop it.

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          • #6
            redcliff
            Calguns Addict
            • Feb 2008
            • 5676

            I love beetle's posts also, some truly spectacular pistols and great commentary too!

            I keep wishing my two WWII Colt 1911a1's would reproduce and multiply but they won't cooperate
            "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
            "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
            "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

            "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
            although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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            • #7
              JeremyS
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 2014

              Originally posted by redcliff
              I love beetle's posts also, some truly spectacular pistols and great commentary too!
              ...ditto. I had to bring them over to TTAG to get some more eyeballs on them. The site is seeing a lot of traffic these days, and Beetle's collection and great write-ups are more than deserving of some play on there!

              Jeremy
              Escaped to WA

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              • #8
                mievil
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 1788

                Normally, it is not good form to post a link to an active auction.

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                • #9
                  beetle
                  The Clip guy
                  CGN Contributor
                  • May 2009
                  • 1677

                  Originally posted by JeremyS
                  ...ditto. I had to bring them over to TTAG to get some more eyeballs on them. The site is seeing a lot of traffic these days, and Beetle's collection and great write-ups are more than deserving of some play on there!

                  Jeremy
                  I appreciate Jeremy giving me the opportunity to share my writing with a broader audience. thank you!

                  Originally posted by mievil
                  Normally, it is not good form to post a link to an active auction.
                  anyone considering this gun please contact me first. I don't like the way it looks and can give you more detail.

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                  • #10
                    Cool Custard
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 3292

                    Beetle, do you ever shoot all these treasures you have or are they just collectors pieces?
                    Stay Low, Go Fast, Take Chances

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                    • #11
                      JeremyS
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 2014

                      Hey Beetle, can you clarify any of the comments on the TTAG post RE Fabrique Nationale? "HighInTheSky" claims his grandfather has one (implying it's a 1911) made by FN during the war w/ Nazi markings, but I'm assuming what he's talking about is a Hi-Power or 1910/1922 or something else... and lower down another person mentioned FN. I don't think they were making 1911's though, right? Only Norway and Argentina had licensed the design [officially]?
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                      • #12
                        beetle
                        The Clip guy
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2009
                        • 1677

                        Originally posted by JeremyS
                        Hey Beetle, can you clarify any of the comments on the TTAG post RE Fabrique Nationale? "HighInTheSky" claims his grandfather has one (implying it's a 1911) made by FN during the war w/ Nazi markings, but I'm assuming what he's talking about is a Hi-Power or 1910/1922 or something else... and lower down another person mentioned FN. I don't think they were making 1911's though, right? Only Norway and Argentina had licensed the design [officially]?
                        correct, FN had the *rights* the 1911 design in Europe, but never actually manufactured any. Instead they asked JMB to design a gun around the 9mm luger that would 1) have high capacity 2) not violate Colt's patents. That gun is the High Power. Like Norway, Belgium was occupied by Germany and had their weapons factories redirected to aid the German war effort. There are quite a few Nazi marked (waffenamt) High Powers out there.

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                        • #13
                          beetle
                          The Clip guy
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2009
                          • 1677

                          Originally posted by Cool Custard
                          Beetle, do you ever shoot all these treasures you have or are they just collectors pieces?
                          short answer: Yes I shoot some
                          Long answer: "it depends"

                          depends on a couple of different factors, value, rarity, uniqueness of the experience, and weapon reputation for reliability.

                          I have no issues shooting M1 Carbines and Garands, because I know they were designed well and in all likelihood I could probably find replacement parts if needed.

                          For 1911s I tend not to shoot them because frankly, I'd get nothing out of the experience. How would it be different than shooting any other 1911?

                          Sometimes I break my own rules because of the uniqueness of the experience. For example, I recently shot my M41 Johnson. Now normally the rareness and value would stop me from shooting it. But I took a chance to shoot it, and got something out of the experience. It was fun/neat to shoot.

                          as I said, "it depends"

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