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  • savasyn
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 3201

    Buckmark dissasembly: WTF??

    Just brought home a brand new Buckmark and was all excited to get it cleaned up for a range session tomorrow. I pulled out the directions to see what needed to happen and was a bit disappointed to see that you needed tools to take it apart. There are the two allen screws, one at the back of the rear sight base and the one under the barrel. They included a wrench for the one at the back, but not for the one up front(yes, they are different sizes.)

    The rear one was screwed in so tight that I had to use pliers on the wrench to get it to pop. I had a wrench that fit the front screw and once again had to use pliers on it, but this time, the screw did not give. In fact, my allen wrench now has a nice twist at the end of it. I suppose better that than a stripped screw head.

    So, WTF? Are they all like this. I kept hear people say that these guns were incredibly easy to take down, so far, I'm unimpressed, especially coming from an S&W 22A that requires no tools.

    Any thoughts other than soaking it in penetrating oil, which it's doing now?

    Thanks.
  • #2
    sorensen440
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2007
    • 8612

    Might have to get a sturdier allen wrench
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      Guntech
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 1722

      you dont have any allen wrenches? Man if you lived closer I'd let you use my tools.
      " I think the National Rifle Association is more feared than any of those associations,"
      -Bob Schieffer, CBS News chief Washington correspondent


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      • #4
        smokingloon
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1012

        I just got a standard URX and was also disappointed on the take down of the gun. I didn't have too much of a problem taking off the two screws for the sights. I didn't bother with the other allen screw beneath the barrel. However, it all disappeared when I went to the range. Shoots like a dream.



        what size allen is the screw that is under the barrel?
        Last edited by smokingloon; 07-24-2008, 6:24 PM.

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        • #5
          TonyM
          In Memoriam
          • Oct 2005
          • 3071

          First time, yes.. they are tight.

          About the tools: I haven't gotten a tool set with any of the new cars or trucks I purchased, and I paid a lot more than $300. for them!
          Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

          Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
          Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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          • #6
            ojisan
            Agent 86
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2008
            • 11768

            If you don't have many tools and need help, I am in 91214. Once you have had the Buckmark apart and together the first time, it is very easy from then on.

            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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            • #7
              fireblast713
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 909

              if you've ever tried taking down a Ruger Mark I/II/ and esp III (w/ the mag disconnect) the Buckmark is easy by comparison.

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              • #8
                savasyn
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 3201

                I have plenty of tools, so I'm ok there. I understand that that many things do not come with tools, but usually things that do, come with the ones you need, not half of the ones you need. This gun requires two sizes of allen wrenches, yet it only comes with one.

                smokingloon, so you don't loosen that lower screw at all and the barrel still comes off? I'll have to try that.

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                • #9
                  caldude
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 1253

                  I had the same issue with my Buckmark. In fact, the barrel screw was so tight, I gave up. I don't take it apart to clean it, but the way it shoots, I could care less. With the Heggis spring flip, my trigger is now at about 2 1/2 lbs. I just wish the front sight was a little narrower.

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                  • #10
                    ojisan
                    Agent 86
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 11768

                    You can clean it just by removing both sight base screws. You don't have to take the barel off.

                    Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                    I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                    • #11
                      762cavalier
                      NRA Training Counselor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3626

                      +1 I still have not found a need to remove the barrel. Easy to clean once you get the slide off.
                      In any type of fight, & especially gun fights, there are no winners ..... just varying degrees of losers. The only fight you win is the one you never get into.

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                      • #12
                        TonyM
                        In Memoriam
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3071

                        Originally posted by 762cavalier
                        +1 I still have not found a need to remove the barrel. Easy to clean once you get the slide off.
                        Reason #1:

                        To put on a better barrel. That's why I did it.

                        Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

                        Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                        Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                        • #13
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11768

                          I was just checking, Browning uses loctite on the newer guns w/ the allen screw. Gentle heat can help. Use of a heat-treated, hardened high-quality allen wrench is needed.

                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                          • #14
                            savasyn
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3201

                            Originally posted by ojisan420
                            You can clean it just by removing both sight base screws. You don't have to take the barel off.
                            Ok, I got that to work, but it seems less than ideal for two reasons.
                            1)Doesn't that cause the zero to wander after each cleaning?

                            2)It forces you to clean the bore from the front, which we all know is great for the crown.

                            Even soaked in Kroil for a few hours, I can't get anywhere with that barrel screw. I'm taking it to the range tomorrow. If it shoots well enough that I feel it's worth keeping, perhaps I'll call Browning and see what they recommend.

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                            • #15
                              savasyn
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 3201

                              Originally posted by ojisan420
                              I was just checking, Browning uses loctite on the newer guns w/ the allen screw. Gentle heat can help. Use of a heat-treated, hardened high-quality allen wrench is needed.
                              Ah ha. I'll give heat a try. What brand of allen wrench are good ones? Will Craftsman do or do I have to chase down a Snap-On truck?

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