Trigger work on Kahr CW9

[jwilson.redding]

Hey all,
I have and love my Kahr have had it almost 2 years, I shoot it 1-2 times a month, the trigger is smooth and broke in nicely, however, i still prefer the single action trigger of my XD40.
One of the the LGS in town says they can lighten trigger and speed up the reset on the Kahr, and its completely reversible. The GS said has has done about 50 Kahrs, with 2 coming back for adjustments after FTF.

Any ideas on what the gunsmith is doing to lighten up the trigger and shorten the reset? It sounds great, but this is my carry gun, and it needs to work every time.

Thanks

[Garyson1311]

I like the SA triggers too but the Kahr trigger acts as a safety on the gun since it does not have much else in terms of safeties (is that a world?!). That being said, I will be carrying my Kahr as well and do not intend to mess with the trigger. In fact, the more I shoot it, the more I kinda like it.

[jwilson.redding]

Yeah, I agree, the trigger is great, it seems to always surprise me, but I cant quite get my splits (time between shots) down to what I can get on my XD... I am likely overly picky and the difference is typically a .1 or less.

[9mmepiphany]

If you are resetting the trigger in parallel with the muzzle flip, I can't see how the longer reset would have any effect on your splits. Are you having a hard time getting from 4 shots a second (.25) to 5 (.20)?

Just run it like a DA revolver, where the trigger never stops moving

[jwilson.redding]

My current goal is to get 3 shots on target in under 2 seconds from a concealment holstered position, I cant remember my exact time right now, but my first shot from tone is usually 1.30ish, then 1.6 or 1.7, the the last shot is about 2.10. The first 2 are pretty quick, then the third is longer.

[9mmepiphany]

That is odd to shoot slower for followup shots.

You wouldn't happen to be shooting from a Weaver grip/stance...with push/pull pressure...would you?

[jwilson.redding]

I shoot isosceles, thumbs forward, but I just recently learned about push/pull pressure.

[golfrj]

I would hold off for awhile and check on Galloway Precision's website, they are working on a new sear for the Kahr that reduces length of pull and lbs of pull..

ps... They are the same people that made the Ruger LC9 so much better..

[9mmepiphany]

I shoot isosceles, thumbs forward, but I just recently learned about push/pull pressure.

Push/pull tension/pressure is the opposite recoil management philosophy to that employed is the Isosceles grip...plus it slows down follow up shots as you attempt to speed up your shooting due to uneven forces applied to the gun necessitating realignment of the sights on target.

The whole Weaver technique works well for training shooters when you have limited training time and who might not have an interest in further practice to improve their shooting skills (magic bullet technique), but the Isosceles technique has proved more optimal over the last 40 years

[jwilson.redding]

Push/pull tension/pressure is the opposite recoil management philosophy to that employed is the Isosceles grip...plus it slows down follow up shots as you attempt to speed up your shooting due to uneven forces applied to the gun necessitating realignment of the sights on target.

The whole Weaver technique works well for training shooters when you have limited training time and who might not have an interest in further practice to improve their shooting skills (magic bullet technique), but the Isosceles technique has proved more optimal over the last 40 years

Are there any good youtube videos you could point me to for isosceles stance shooting?
Thanks again for all the info.

[jwilson.redding]

I would hold off for awhile and check on Galloway Precision's website, they are working on a new sear for the Kahr that reduces length of pull and lbs of pull..

ps... They are the same people that made the Ruger LC9 so much better..

Thanks, I will check it out!

[pklin1297]

Are there any good youtube videos you could point me to for isosceles stance shooting?
Thanks again for all the info.

Just do a search for isosceles stance shooting, there should be some reputable shooters out there teaching that. I've watched Rob Leatham, Doug Koenig, Max Michel, and Jerry Miculek before just to name a few as they all have shooting technique videos on youtube. Everyone is different though so while you can train with these techniques to begin, you may find that you have to make slight modifications for you. Have fun! Shoot lots!

[9mmepiphany]

Are there any good youtube videos you could point me to for isosceles stance shooting?
Thanks again for all the info.

This is the one I like

Everyone is different though so while you can train with these techniques to begin, you may find that you have to make slight modifications for you.

Be careful when making modifications without understanding how they might conflict with the recoil management philosophy inherent in the technique.

Note the use of the word management as opposed to control

[bdock]

Wolff Springs makes a reduced power Striker Spring. (I made my choice. The gun runs flawlessly, please dont give me a ration of crap about swapping striker springs thanks)

It reduced the trigger pull in my CW40 quite a bit. It didnt do anything for the reset or legth of pull.

I also did a polish job on the plunger and some of the tigger peices. Its most definetly the smoothest Kahr trigger, But its a little light for me. I like a heavier trigger. If I could do anything It would be shorten the legth of pull.

I shoot it like any other DA gun. Stage the trigger (3/4 pull) and then ease her on back. It takes PRACTICE, these are not range guns so it may take a while...

I bite the bullet and try to throw 150 rounds down the pipe every range trip. Tough and expensive, but I've got pretty comfy with it.

That siad, I love Kahrs...

[9mmepiphany]

I also did a polish job on the plunger and some of the tigger peices. Its most definetly the smoothest Kahr trigger, But its a little light for me. I like a heavier trigger.

A good polish will do wonders for the feel. You don't need ot change any angles or lighten any springs

I shoot it like any other DA gun. Stage the trigger (3/4 pull) and then ease her on back. It takes PRACTICE, these are not range guns so it may take a while...

I'm never sure why many people like to stage a long DAO trigger like the Kahr. A straight through pull will be faster and usually more accurate with less work as you aren't tempted to jerk at the trigger