I am pretty happy with my home defense system of my G17 and G19, plus my Mossberg 500 for serious home invasion situations, but today it was my second trip to the range to practice with both and my new home defense round (Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+ 9mm ammo), that I had at least one or two per every 10 rd mag hot brass on my face (two in the forefront, two in the eye, one in the cheek, another one in the neck and many close fliers). I shot both decently and getting better when I keep practicing, but in my way back home today I realized how would it be in a home invasion situation and me being hit in the eye or in the face with hot brass while trying to stop the intruder(s) with my G19? I am not going to have the luxury to wear my eye protection on or any other type of equipment to stay safe from hot brass jumping all over my head. My question is how the most experienced Calgunners who own an G19 and have experienced this issue have dealt with it? Thanks in advance for your comments....
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Glock 19 and hot brass in the face, solutions?
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Just picked up a new Gen 3 G19 and same thing happened to me first trip out to the range.Comment
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I had a glock22 and did not remember having issues with the brass flying in my face. I can't imagine that being normal for your weapon. Possibly an ammo issue or an extractor issue? Have you tried other ammo?
My pistols typically throw the brass between 2-5 o'clock. I pretty much figured this was the norm.Last edited by Garyson1311; 01-04-2014, 2:44 PM.Comment
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The 30274 Ejector may fix it for you.
You can buy a Gen 4 trigger housing+ejector from MidwayUSA for $8: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/225...m-generation-4
Take the ejector out of that housing and put it in your Gen 3.
Sending in your G19 to Glock won't get you anywhere...they will shoot a few magazines through it and say it tested fine.Comment
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I experienced the same problem with 115gr ammo, but it didn't happen with the heavier 147gr rounds. After about 1k rounds, the issue went away completely. I'm assuming it's because the recoil spring needed to be broken in.Originally posted by G. Michael HopfHard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.Comment
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It's a well documented problem. In short, Glock changed their extractor design. I went to Apex and bought their aftermarket extractor. I replaced the spring and the extractor - the problem went away.
I can tell you that it's not user error - it's a design problem. VERY WELL DOCUMENTED.Comment
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Had the same problem with a new gen 3 glock 17. I put 50 rounds through it and had a lot of brass hit the top of my hat. Unacceptable. I ordered another extractor and ejector. I cleaned the heck out of the original extractor and seeing how my replacement looked the same I just put it back in. The ejector I replaced completely. The one in the gun and the replacement had the same part number. The only difference was a 1 in a circle on the original and a 2 in a circle on the replacement one. Both were molded into the side. Once I replaced the ejector I have put about 300 more rounds through it with no problem. I wonder if the circle 2 was somehow an updated ejector for gen 3's even with the same part number? Oh well it works.
Somewhere closeComment
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simple extractor adjustment.Comment
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Anyone have a part number or link to the non-dipped extractors?Comment
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Yes, well documented issue. More likely than not, if you use hotter ammo it will not spit brass back at your face. Your best bet in getting this fixed is either sending it to Glock or getting the Apex extractor. Other options aren't as reliable to fix the issue. I tried a Lone Wolf extractor and it didn't help. I ended up sending it back to Glock and it's now resolved. The best way to do that is to work with the FFL you bought it from and have them ship it USPS. Otherwise it'll cost like $80+ to ship it from UPS or Fedex since Glock refuses to pay for shipping on BTF issues. From what I've heard from other Calgunners, the Apex extractor resolves this issue as well but it's a bit pricey at $60.
Can I ask when this Glock was made? Check the date on the spent casing inside the case.Comment
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I have two gen 4 19s, I never have a problem with BTTF. But when my 12 year old son shoots them I have seen it happen to him.
So what I get out of this is work the gun like a grown man no brass to the face, limp wrist it like a 12 year old brass to the face.
Just what I have observed with mine, maybe I'm wrong. Don't know, just saying.Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.Comment
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I have two gen 4 19s, I never have a problem with BTTF. But when my 12 year old son shoots them I have seen it happen to him.
So what I get out of this is work the gun like a grown man no brass to the face, limp wrist it like a 12 year old brass to the face.
Just what I have observed with mine, maybe I'm wrong. Don't know, just saying.
This could happen, however, between shooting my P30 and G19, the P30 has not once hit me in the face with brass. in my case it's the G19.
but i DO notice people with weaker hold will have this happen more often...or usually FTF.
most likely the ejector, like everyone mentioned.
in my case, i switched to a Gen 2 .40SW extractor, and it helped most of the time. it still happens but only on the last round, while i'm using the 10rd mags
OP, hotter ammo, may help a little, if your G19 is new.Comment
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