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  • Wally2528
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 228

    Glock 19 and hot brass in the face, solutions?

    I am pretty happy with my home defense system of my G17 and G19, plus my Mossberg 500 for serious home invasion situations, but today it was my second trip to the range to practice with both and my new home defense round (Winchester Ranger 127gr +P+ 9mm ammo), that I had at least one or two per every 10 rd mag hot brass on my face (two in the forefront, two in the eye, one in the cheek, another one in the neck and many close fliers). I shot both decently and getting better when I keep practicing, but in my way back home today I realized how would it be in a home invasion situation and me being hit in the eye or in the face with hot brass while trying to stop the intruder(s) with my G19? I am not going to have the luxury to wear my eye protection on or any other type of equipment to stay safe from hot brass jumping all over my head. My question is how the most experienced Calgunners who own an G19 and have experienced this issue have dealt with it? Thanks in advance for your comments....
  • #2
    Lurch762
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 962

    This is a well documented problem with some Glock extractors. How old is your G19? Does the G17 have the same issue? If not, try swapping the extractor between the two and see if the problem moves with the extractor.

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    • #3
      BuckshotBob
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 310

      Just picked up a new Gen 3 G19 and same thing happened to me first trip out to the range.

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      • #4
        Garyson1311
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 482

        I had a glock22 and did not remember having issues with the brass flying in my face. I can't imagine that being normal for your weapon. Possibly an ammo issue or an extractor issue? Have you tried other ammo?

        My pistols typically throw the brass between 2-5 o'clock. I pretty much figured this was the norm.
        Last edited by Garyson1311; 01-04-2014, 2:44 PM.

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        • #5
          Fox-Hound
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 8

          I had the same issue with 2 or 3 rounds per magazine with a G19 gen 3. I was using 115 grain FMJ reloads from the indoor range. You guys think it might be caused by limp wristing? Didn't have this problem with a G17 gen 3.

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          • #6
            0150r
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 140

            The 30274 Ejector may fix it for you.

            You can buy a Gen 4 trigger housing+ejector from MidwayUSA for $8: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/225...m-generation-4

            Take the ejector out of that housing and put it in your Gen 3.

            Sending in your G19 to Glock won't get you anywhere...they will shoot a few magazines through it and say it tested fine.

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            • #7
              teflondog
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 4010

              I experienced the same problem with 115gr ammo, but it didn't happen with the heavier 147gr rounds. After about 1k rounds, the issue went away completely. I'm assuming it's because the recoil spring needed to be broken in.
              Originally posted by G. Michael Hopf
              Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times.

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              • #8
                armsofjustice
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 17

                It's a well documented problem. In short, Glock changed their extractor design. I went to Apex and bought their aftermarket extractor. I replaced the spring and the extractor - the problem went away.

                I can tell you that it's not user error - it's a design problem. VERY WELL DOCUMENTED.

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                • #9
                  GREASY357
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 1684

                  Have the same issue with my glock 30, except the hot brass hits my neck and goes down my tucked in shirt. painful but effective brass catcher
                  War is mostly waiting.

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                  • #10
                    land locked
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1001

                    Had the same problem with a new gen 3 glock 17. I put 50 rounds through it and had a lot of brass hit the top of my hat. Unacceptable. I ordered another extractor and ejector. I cleaned the heck out of the original extractor and seeing how my replacement looked the same I just put it back in. The ejector I replaced completely. The one in the gun and the replacement had the same part number. The only difference was a 1 in a circle on the original and a 2 in a circle on the replacement one. Both were molded into the side. Once I replaced the ejector I have put about 300 more rounds through it with no problem. I wonder if the circle 2 was somehow an updated ejector for gen 3's even with the same part number? Oh well it works.


                    Somewhere close

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                    • #11
                      glockman19
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 10486

                      simple extractor adjustment.

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                      • #12
                        Army of One
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 56

                        Anyone have a part number or link to the non-dipped extractors?

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                        • #13
                          chonkey
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 528

                          Yes, well documented issue. More likely than not, if you use hotter ammo it will not spit brass back at your face. Your best bet in getting this fixed is either sending it to Glock or getting the Apex extractor. Other options aren't as reliable to fix the issue. I tried a Lone Wolf extractor and it didn't help. I ended up sending it back to Glock and it's now resolved. The best way to do that is to work with the FFL you bought it from and have them ship it USPS. Otherwise it'll cost like $80+ to ship it from UPS or Fedex since Glock refuses to pay for shipping on BTF issues. From what I've heard from other Calgunners, the Apex extractor resolves this issue as well but it's a bit pricey at $60.

                          Can I ask when this Glock was made? Check the date on the spent casing inside the case.

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                          • #14
                            stormvet
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 10571

                            I have two gen 4 19s, I never have a problem with BTTF. But when my 12 year old son shoots them I have seen it happen to him.
                            So what I get out of this is work the gun like a grown man no brass to the face, limp wrist it like a 12 year old brass to the face.
                            Just what I have observed with mine, maybe I'm wrong. Don't know, just saying.
                            Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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                            • #15
                              DDRH
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 2756

                              Originally posted by stormvet
                              I have two gen 4 19s, I never have a problem with BTTF. But when my 12 year old son shoots them I have seen it happen to him.
                              So what I get out of this is work the gun like a grown man no brass to the face, limp wrist it like a 12 year old brass to the face.
                              Just what I have observed with mine, maybe I'm wrong. Don't know, just saying.

                              This could happen, however, between shooting my P30 and G19, the P30 has not once hit me in the face with brass. in my case it's the G19.

                              but i DO notice people with weaker hold will have this happen more often...or usually FTF.

                              most likely the ejector, like everyone mentioned.

                              in my case, i switched to a Gen 2 .40SW extractor, and it helped most of the time. it still happens but only on the last round, while i'm using the 10rd mags

                              OP, hotter ammo, may help a little, if your G19 is new.

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