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  • cusco19
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 1067

    Handgun registration question

    My customer in LA has a gun in his possession that was from his friends in TX. But he moved to China do gave it my customer.

    I told him better to get it registered, but he doesn't know how, since the original owner is no longer in the county.

    Any suggestions I can pass to him?

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  • #2
    nahpungnome
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 2159

    From what I've read, the original owner would've had to gone through a FFL. That FFL would have to ship to your customer's FFL to do all the registration.

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    • #3
      rambutan316
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 705

      How did your customer acquire the gun from this friend? Hopefully, it was done legally if in Cali...

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      • #4
        paratroop
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 1743

        Los Angeles, or Louisiana?

        There really isn't enough info to determine if he aquired it lawfully, so I will just leave this bit of info here. He can fill out a voluntary registration form and mail it to the state along with a check for the registration. Let me find a link to the form.

        New resident form, https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a.../ab991frm.pdf?

        Ownership report, https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...ms/volreg.pdf?

        Depending on when he recieved the handgun, he might not even have to worry about registration.
        Last edited by paratroop; 01-03-2014, 5:45 PM.
        Originally posted by Marcus von W.
        Is that banjo music I hear?
        "Sporter" is what the drooling toothless inbred albino with the hacksaw thinks his newly created "dear riffel" is.
        "Bubba" is what he and his ugly and ruined rifle really are.
        First you are chopping up historic vintage rifles and sticking them in cheap and nasty looking plastic "dildo" stocks that look like some kind of futuristic sex toy that gay space aliens stick up each other's butts.
        Next thing you know, you think "Deliverance" is a love story.

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        • #5
          cusco19
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2013
          • 1067

          Sorry.. LA as in los Angeles. Irvine to be exact.

          His friend moved from TX to CA and bright it with him. And now that he moved to China, he just left it with my customer.

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          • #6
            Librarian
            Admin and Poltergeist
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2005
            • 44661

            Transfer was supposed to go to your customer through an FFL. Sounds like that did not happen. No real 'approved' recovery; since failure to transfer properly is a misdemeanor, statute of limitations is 3 years.
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            Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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            • #7
              cusco19
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2013
              • 1067

              Ouch... then I guess he might as well turn that in

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              • #8
                18Dmedic
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 596

                Or put it somewhere safe for three years. Then register it.

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                • #9
                  SOLO 543
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2013
                  • 11

                  Originally posted by Librarian
                  since failure to transfer properly is a misdemeanor, statute of limitations is 3 years.
                  Librarian, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a one year SOL? See PC 802(a).

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                  • #10
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44661

                    Originally posted by SOLO 543
                    Librarian, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it a one year SOL? See PC 802(a).
                    Looks like you are correct; I must have blurred that with 'wobblers' as described in 801. But I did have to go read 801 and following to even guess where I had gone wrong.

                    Thanks.
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                    • #11
                      riderr
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2013
                      • 6659

                      Originally posted by 18Dmedic
                      Or put it somewhere safe for three years. Then register it.
                      If LE accidentally finds it during a lawful search before then, the guy may get into trouble.

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                      • #12
                        dangerranger
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 578

                        If friend has left the country and authorized him to dispose it, wouldn't it work much the same as an executor? He would just need a power of attorney for this transaction. DR
                        Last edited by dangerranger; 01-04-2014, 8:24 PM.

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                        • #13
                          cusco19
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 1067

                          Thanks to everyone reply. I've forward this to him for him to decide what to do.

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                          • #14
                            Bad Caselaw
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 808

                            Boy, handguns are dangerous.

                            (no wonder criminals don't have them)




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                            "We're surrounded. That simplifies things."

                            - Col. LB "Chesty" Puller USMC - Chosin Reservoir

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                            • #15
                              mikeyr
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 1554

                              Let me squeak in here with a related question.

                              My brother in law purchased a new model 66 S&W 30 or so years ago, 25 years ago I purchased it from him, no paper work, no nothing. I think I gave him $200 for it and that was all that was done. I also have a few handguns that I purchased at gun shows 15-30 years ago, no paper work at all.

                              I also own handguns recently purchased from gun shops with DROS, etc.

                              What about my old handguns, do I need to register them somewhere ? I still shoot them but there is no record I own them and I would have no way to prove I have owned them for decades. I have always assumed these toys were fine as i owned them for so long but I could not prove it if I needed to.
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