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  • #16
    Casual Observer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1400

    Originally posted by Ironchef
    I thought they were made in Israel, yet marcelo's says made in usa. Must be a different maker?
    They are made by Israeli Weapons Industries (IWI) which is the corporate successor to Israeli Military Industries (IMI).

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    • #17
      ZOMBIEHUNTER
      Member
      • May 2008
      • 395

      the 50 DE is all hype my 480 ruger has more recoil plus there to cumbersome
      Jon

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      • #18
        Casual Observer
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1400

        Originally posted by ZOMBIEHUNTER
        the 50 DE is all hype my 480 ruger has more recoil plus there to cumbersome
        They are all hype. They are picky with ammo, their gas tubes foul pretty fast and that results in jams. Everyone I know with one thinks of it more as a novelty piece than a serious firearm.

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        • #19
          CHS
          Moderator Emeritus
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 11338

          Originally posted by Ironchef
          I thought they were made in Israel, yet marcelo's says made in usa. Must be a different maker?
          They used to be made in Israel, by IMI. Magnum Research did finally take over manufacturing and they are now made in the USA.

          I think it happened around the same time they made them all look alike (The older non-50 barrels had a different top-rail shape).
          Please read the Calguns Wiki
          Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
          --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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          • #20
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7187

            The .44s (newer) have two lightening grooves on the sides (.357 barrel has an extra groove on top).

            I used to own a .50, made in Israel. It was 100% reliable when I had it, except the slide wouldn't always lock back (thumb hitting the lever maybe?).

            There was nothing really wrong with it, but I sold it as I had no use for the thing. Would have made a nice boar hunting gun though.

            The gas port never gave me any trouble, though the most I put through it was 50-100 rounds at a time. I cleaned the port after hitting 500 rounds.

            Same reason I never bought a .500 later- what the heck am I going to do with it? They're fun to shoot, but ammo prices make you shoot less.

            -Dave

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            • #21
              Ironchef
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 2313

              It's a novelty gun indeed...no practical use that I can think of. And it's a good test to see if you limp wrist! lol
              Fleeing the PRK on 3/8/09!!

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              • #22
                Jeff P
                Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 388

                Sure it's a novelty hand gun but, what fun. At the range your bang is like the big bore rifle, and people come over and take a look at your hand cannon. Heck it shoots pretty flat, out at 200 yards when you hit that empty beer keg. And when you show your buddies, it can plow that 50ae bullet through a 18" wood stump. We all got a laugh. Just plain ole fun shootin.
                Very interesting!!
                Uhh.ohh, wifes home gotta go....

                Jeff P

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                • #23
                  ohsmily
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 8961

                  Originally posted by Ironchef
                  It's a novelty gun indeed...no practical use that I can think of. And it's a good test to see if you limp wrist! lol
                  Some people hunt with it (pigs, deer, etc). That is a practical use. It is rather accurate (for a semi auto handgun) and has good stopping power in the 44 mag and 50AE models.

                  Personally, I favor large bore revolvers to the DE for a big thumping handgun. But, to each his own. I have never been a fan of the DE. The grip is huge and you need hot ammo to cycle it reliably. It is neat that it is semi-auto but I would take a 500SW or 460SW any day over the DE. Even most 454 Casull loads have more muzzle energy than the 50AE.
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                  • #24
                    Moonclip
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 4390

                    I knew an armed guard that carried the .44mag on duty!
                    .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                    7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                    9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                    .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                    .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                    20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                    • #25
                      Saigon1965
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 17278

                      Originally posted by Moonclip
                      I knew an armed guard that carried the .44mag on duty!

                      He's going to have back problems.

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                      • #26
                        Jeff P
                        Member
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 388

                        Originally Posted by Moonclip
                        I knew an armed guard that carried the .44mag on duty!
                        Suspenders and a hip replacement
                        Very interesting!!
                        Uhh.ohh, wifes home gotta go....

                        Jeff P

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                        • #27
                          Moonclip
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4390

                          He was a fairly big guy in decent shape. I knew another fat azz one that carried a Ruger Super Redhawk .44mag when his employers allowed it.
                          .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                          7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                          9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                          .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                          .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                          20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                          • #28
                            5150Marcelo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 7681

                            Originally posted by Ironchef
                            I thought they were made in Israel, yet marcelo's says made in usa. Must be a different maker?
                            The older DE models (Mark VII) had the non-interchangable platform. They were all made in Israel (IMI-Israel Military Institute), imported by Magnum Research. *No longer made*

                            The newer models (Mark XIX) with the fluted barrels, and wider barrels, had the interchangable platform *.357, .41, .44, .50AE* were all made made in the USA, to US spec by Magnum Research. *No longer made, and rare, and doesn not say Israel anywhere on the gun, all USA baby!*

                            Now, the DE Mark XIX's are all made in Israel (IWI-Israel Weapons Institute) and imported by Magnum Research. (Still made and what you see mostly today)

                            To my experience and knowledge, the US versions of the DE function just about flawlessly *if kept clean* like any gun. I had a Mark VII and it was notorious for jams and FTFeed's. Once in a great while, the slide wouldnt lock back at the end of a mag on the XIX, but this is due to not properly holding the gun firmly for the action to cycle, or not using a hot unuff load.
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                            Originally posted by Slayer;
                            Holy Lord....why would a dude know what spermicide taste like?
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                            • #29
                              TKM
                              Onward through the fog!
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 10657

                              While picking up a little Ruger .22 at Turners today I saw a DE .44 with the brushed chrome finish.

                              It's in their online ad as well. Must have made the "safe fun" list.
                              It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                              • #30
                                5150Marcelo
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 7681

                                Originally posted by TKM
                                While picking up a little Ruger .22 at Turners today I saw a DE .44 with the brushed chrome finish.

                                It's in their online ad as well. Must have made the "safe fun" list.
                                Dont belive it till I see it.
                                Last edited by 5150Marcelo; 07-17-2008, 8:02 PM.
                                Handmade Predator/Coyote Calls!!!
                                Originally posted by ColdSteel14;
                                Spermicidal rubbers! On the other hand.. Man.. That spermicide doesn't taste very good. AT ALL!
                                Originally posted by Slayer;
                                Holy Lord....why would a dude know what spermicide taste like?
                                sigpic

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