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  • Mr_Monkeywrench
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2366

    Kahr Trigger

    I have a Cw9 I use for daily carry, but I am having serious issues with the trigger. It has -- for a lack of better term -- sloppy.

    It feels like the spring is really spongy and you can audibly hear a creeping sound on the take up and it breaks really far back in the trigger guard. So much so it causes me to flinch every shot and pull low left (-2,-2).

    Because the frame is so thin and the break is so far back in the trigger guard, my trigger finger drags along my support hand and frankly it kind of sucks to shoot.

    Is there something wrong with it? Anyone else have this problem?
  • #2
    Mr_Monkeywrench
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 2366

    Originally posted by jessegpresley
    Have you ever taken a defensive handgun class?

    People can do plenty good with those little Kahrs. It's just up to you.


    Yes.

    I can usually shoot pretty well with any pistol, but for some reason, this pistol is giving me problems. Being a carry gun, I feel it is imperative that I am proficient with it.

    I love the way it feels in hand and how thin it is. I can carry it with a super tuck and a fitted Tshirt and it's unnoticeable.
    Last edited by Mr_Monkeywrench; 12-19-2013, 9:59 PM.

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    • #3
      9mmepiphany
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 8075

      It almost sounds like you have your finger too far into the trigger guard and your finger is cramping as you press the trigger through it's travel. Do you have the trigger contacting your finger behind the nail bed?

      I pretty much cover the left side of the trigger guard with my support hand and I've never experienced my trigger finger dragging along it

      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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      • #4
        Mr_Monkeywrench
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 2366

        I just got home and Im checking out how I hold the pistol and how my finger naturally presses the trigger. I hold it in a similar fashion as you have posted.

        I feel like the trigger breaks too far back in the trigger guard. I know these pistols naturally have a long take up, but my Kahr has me pressing so far back, that my finger does begin to cramp up and the original spot where I rested my finger on the trigger (behind the nail before the first knuckle) is moved passed the trigger to the first bend or knuckle. That and I am noticing I am anticipating the break which is causing me to yank the pistol down and to the left.

        I have never had this problem with any other firearm, even revolvers.

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        • #5
          Marquand
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1482

          It sounds like this is a case of the Kahr's ergonomics just not fitting your hand. It happens. I think the world of the Springfield XD pistol from a design standpoint but it just feels...wrong...in my hands. A fellow shooter and friend of mine can't stand my Sig P229's fit.

          Ask a fellow shooter to try out the Kahr without specifying your concerns. See what he thinks. If you can find alternate grips, try those as well. Hope you can remedy the situation. I think the Kahr is an excellent handgun for it's intended purpose and hope you can find a way to make it work for you.
          "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            Mr_Monkeywrench
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 2366

            Originally posted by Marquand
            It sounds like this is a case of the Kahr's ergonomics just not fitting your hand. It happens. I think the world of the Springfield XD pistol from a design standpoint but it just feels...wrong...in my hands. A fellow shooter and friend of mine can't stand my Sig P229's fit.

            Ask a fellow shooter to try out the Kahr without specifying your concerns. See what he thinks. If you can find alternate grips, try those as well. Hope you can remedy the situation. I think the Kahr is an excellent handgun for it's intended purpose and hope you can find a way to make it work for you.
            I almost hate to admit that I have thought this was the problem the whole time. I really want to like this pistol and shoot it accurately because it is so easy to carry.

            I have an M&P 9 that I can nail dead center at 25 yards with. Maybe I should look into the shield. Damn. I really want the Kahr to work for me.

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            • #7
              9mmepiphany
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2008
              • 8075

              the original spot where I rested my finger on the trigger (behind the nail before the first knuckle) is moved passed the trigger to the first bend or knuckle.
              Do you have your finger resting along the side of the frame?

              Try flaring your finger outward from the first knuckle, so that when your finger is resting on the trigger, your last two knuckles are in-line
              ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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              • #8
                Ritchie8719
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 1433

                My instructor has a P9 that he carries and his advice was "don't give up on the trigger". An adrenaline squeeze will get the job done.

                I gave up on my CW9 and two others later, but I could shoot them well .
                Tarn Helm, WTF???

                My god, Bigger Hammer, dont you have jaywalkers to ticket?

                bunny farts to flamethrowers

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                • #9
                  jyo
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 5314

                  I have two CW9s (wife and I). Yeah the trigger does take some getting used to, but don't fall into the trap of thinking you should be able to shoot it like a target pistol---it's a hideout gun. Now having said that, I must say that with some practice, my Kahrs shoot damn well and right to point of aim. I feel well-armed when carrying mine.
                  There is always the choice of selling your Kahr and getting something like my other smaller 9mm---a Walther PPS with a very Glock-like trigger...

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                  • #10
                    Wang Lung
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 334

                    I carry a PM9, but I'm no Kahr fanboy. I'm vastly superior with a 1911, but I rarely carry that. If you're pretty good at 7 yards, I wouldn't sweat it.

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                    • #11
                      Hilbilly
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 25

                      I have a cw9 that I picked up last year for summer carry. It felt good in the store, but when I got to the range I found out there were serious problems with the end result.
                      After about 500 rounds I figured out that it just didn't fit my hand and was forcing my finger into a cramp/bind with the trigger guard just before release. I was ready to sell the gun before I figured it out.
                      When I moved my palm back a bit on the grip (rubber and tape mockup to add a palm swell) the grip got good and the trigger problem went away.
                      I looked for replacement grips for the Kahr and came up short, so I got creative. I took some foam rubber and a sharp knife and carefully carved a piece about 3" x 3/8" to fit the back of the grip and serve as a palm swell. Then I took a 4" piece of bicycle inner tube (don't laugh), turned it inside out and stretched it over the original grip and the foam rubber pad and trimmed the inner tube top and bottom to fit the gun. I cut a small round hole for the CT laser button and tested it out.
                      Problem solved! That little bit of added palm swell moved my hand back enough that my finger didn't bind in the guard anymore and I could get a smooth trigger pull.
                      It may sound kind of odd, but it really came out looking good. More importantly it worked.

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                      • #12
                        Mr_Monkeywrench
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 2366

                        Originally posted by Hilbilly
                        I have a cw9 that I picked up last year for summer carry. It felt good in the store, but when I got to the range I found out there were serious problems with the end result.
                        After about 500 rounds I figured out that it just didn't fit my hand and was forcing my finger into a cramp/bind with the trigger guard just before release. I was ready to sell the gun before I figured it out.
                        When I moved my palm back a bit on the grip (rubber and tape mockup to add a palm swell) the grip got good and the trigger problem went away.
                        I looked for replacement grips for the Kahr and came up short, so I got creative. I took some foam rubber and a sharp knife and carefully carved a piece about 3" x 3/8" to fit the back of the grip and serve as a palm swell. Then I took a 4" piece of bicycle inner tube (don't laugh), turned it inside out and stretched it over the original grip and the foam rubber pad and trimmed the inner tube top and bottom to fit the gun. I cut a small round hole for the CT laser button and tested it out.
                        Problem solved! That little bit of added palm swell moved my hand back enough that my finger didn't bind in the guard anymore and I could get a smooth trigger pull.
                        It may sound kind of odd, but it really came out looking good. More importantly it worked.
                        Excellent idea!!!! I have pretty big mitts and I think that's the problem. I'm going to try this out.

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                        • #13
                          Hilbilly
                          Junior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 25

                          Yeah, I could tell that was the problem as soon as I added a bit of pad to the back and dry fired it in the living room.
                          Let me know how that works out for ya.
                          Best,

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                          • #14
                            9mmepiphany
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 8075

                            Originally posted by Hilbilly
                            It may sound kind of odd, but it really came out looking good. More importantly it worked.
                            Would you mind sharing a picture of the modification?
                            ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                            • #15
                              AfricanHunter
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 1005

                              I almost bought a PM9 a while back but luckily decided to rent one first. I had similar issues to yours at the range. Really disliked the trigger and ergo's. Purchased a G26 instead.
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