.45 and .40 input please.

[Barang]

What make of guns in .40 are you considering? People will be able to give you more input about the recoil of certain guns if you narrow it down to a few you like.

I'm going with P220 ( .45ACP ) Full Stainless then P229 in .40 next.

[rman]

double tap

[rman]

nice choices
top left, bottom right

also have a 357 bbl for the p229...uses same mags and recoil spring, just swap out the bbl and load up the 357 sig

-Armand
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[JMP]

Not going to read through another caliber thread, but all you need to know is to go with 9mm & .45 ACP...****can your .40 Short & Weak. If you are dead set on firing that diameter, get a 10mm.

[Bad Caselaw]

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the prior threads, but could the perceived recoil difference have something to do with .45acp being a subsonic round (~900fps) vs. 40s&w generally being supersonic (~1,200fps)?


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From a ~ 4" Bbl...

230 gr. .45 ACP +P ~900 fps.
180 gr. .40 S&W ~ 1000 fps.

Both are sub-sonic, both have ~ 400 FtLbs of Energy atm.




Caselaw

[.45-70Sharps]

3 easy steps to solve your problem:

1. Buy the gun you like.

2. Load your own rounds to the powder charge you like.

3. Ignore everyone, just and think they're .

As for self defense: No matter what round you choose, as long as it goes bag, it really does not matter.

[Gemini Effect]

.45 ACP is a much smoother shooting round, in my opinion than either 9mm or .40.

When shooting my G21 there is less muzzle jump than my 9mm Glocks, just a solid push to the rear. I can keep shots on target much faster.

All guns should be Glocks, all Glocks should be model 21s in .45 acp.

I think the saying that the .45ACP is a nice or solid 'push to the rear' has been way over-used and abused.

All hand guns recoil in the same manner. All handguns or at least those with a slide, will always make your primary hand/wrist bend and flex. Look at the video that Vuurwapen Blog on Youtube made showing 3 different CZ pistols in 9mm, .40 and .45. They all recoil in the same fashion. The difference is the angle of the muzzle or bore line before and after the shot.

In his video, the 9mm had the least amount of recoil while the .45 was in 2nd place and the .40 was in first (as far as who had the greatest angle variation).

Also, look at the video from Mr Colion Noir where he did a rapid fire string of shots between the .45 and the 9mm. The .45 was STILL all over the place and that is the reason why he switched to a 9mm for his carry round.

Between the 3 calibers, nothing will beat the 9mm as far as reduced recoil and the ability to get back on target faster.

Edit: I'm a proponent of the .40.....and I hate Glocks.

[GM4spd]

Buy a 45 ACP. Never look back. Pete

[Gemini Effect]

Not going to read through another caliber thread, but all you need to know is to go with 9mm & .45 ACP...****can your .40 Short & Weak. If you are dead set on firing that diameter, get a 10mm.

LOL, another one who uses the 'Short & Weak' fallacy but then says you can go with a 9mm.

[Gemini Effect]

Not sure why anyone would buy a .40 or 10mm over a 9mm or .45.

Price perhaps and also that the .40 is a very good round that many law enforcement agencies are beginning to use.

[Gemini Effect]

I hate .40 as it is way to snappy and just a dumb in between caliber. Go 9mm if you want something easy to control or .45 if you want some serious power.

What if someone can't afford to shoot the .45?

What if someone feels that the 9mm, in ball ammo, may not be enough and are uncomfortbale with that?

Not a 'dumb inbetween caliber'.

[Packy14]

For awhile I shot only .40, then I sold them all and went all 9mm. I just picked up a .40 on a trade and want a .45. I prefer the feel of 9mm for fast shot to shot times, but a 1911 in .45 is a smooth operator that I must soon buy. I think .40 is harder to be consistently accurate with as a newer shooter due to it's snappier recoil profile.

[Grayblue]

Not going to read through another caliber thread, but all you need to know is to go with 9mm & .45 ACP...****can your .40 Short & Weak. If you are dead set on firing that diameter, get a 10mm.

What you need to know is people who spew this kind of gibberish do not know that what they call "Short & Weak" is more powerful than the most standard pressure 45ACP in combat loads.

[Grayblue]

For awhile I shot only .40, then I sold them all and went all 9mm. I just picked up a .40 on a trade and want a .45. I prefer the feel of 9mm for fast shot to shot times, but a 1911 in .45 is a smooth operator that I must soon buy. I think .40 is harder to be consistently accurate with as a newer shooter due to it's snappier recoil profile.

There are good reasons to go with a 40S&W, but being easier to shoot is not one of them.

There is no "free lunch" in physics. 40S&W / 357 SIG do need more discipline to shoot well, which may require more training to reach the same level of accuracy and speed. You don't get something for nothing.

If it is for security use, it is generally not for shooters with a "casual/occasional" training style.

However, if a person wants to run a 40S&W and maintain a regular training schedule, I do not find it to require significantly more effort than regular training with a 9mm either. 45ACP will be even more expensive and not any more easier to train with.

[Packy14]

There are good reasons to go with a 40S&W, but being easier to shoot is not one of them.

There is no "free lunch" in physics. 40S&W / 357 SIG do need more discipline to shoot well, which may require more training to reach the same level of accuracy and speed. You don't get something for nothing.

If it is for security use, it is generally not for shooters with a "casual/occasional" training style.

However, if a person wants to run a 40S&W and maintain a regular training schedule, I do not find it to require significantly more effort than regular training with a 9mm either. 45ACP will be even more expensive and not any more easier to train with.

how did anything your wrote have anything to do with what I wrote? just curious.