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  • #16
    SILENT GUNMAN
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1468

    Its totally safe.

    For those who don't like the idea of the hammer slamming home and manually decock their guns, don't pull the trigger. You are defeating the whole purpose of the decocker and risking a slip that can cause an ND. Instead try decocking with 2 hands. Use the decocker to release the hammer but use your support hand thumb to lower it. If you slip using this method all of the safeties are still in place to catch the hammer and stop it from firing.
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    • #17
      morningglory
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 156

      Originally posted by diveRN
      The internal portion of the decocker on my S&W 4006 actually rolls forward to cover the firing pin and prevents the hammer from ever coming in contact with it. This is a 915, but the mechanism works the same.
      Bit of a segue, the 4006/4046 are dropping off the DOJ list next year, how do you like it? Do you recommend? Thanks.

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      • #18
        kingjoey
        Banned
        • Jun 2008
        • 441

        Nevermind, not worth wasting my time to explain to people that don't give a ****.
        Last edited by kingjoey; 12-09-2013, 11:56 PM.

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        • #19
          creampuff
          • Jan 2006
          • 3730

          Risk vs benefits.

          Which one is more dangerous..a Sig with the hammer cocked; or Decocking the hammer.

          I'll go with decocking the Sig.

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          • #20
            kingjoey
            Banned
            • Jun 2008
            • 441

            Nevermind, not worth wasting my time to explain to people that don't give a ****.
            Last edited by kingjoey; 12-09-2013, 11:56 PM.

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            • #21
              diveRN
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1743

              Originally posted by morningglory
              Bit of a segue, the 4006/4046 are dropping off the DOJ list next year, how do you like it? Do you recommend? Thanks.
              It's heavy comparatively, which is why I don't carry it daily, but it's way more accurate than the other pistols I have in .40 cal. I learned to double and triple tap steel drop targets with this gun.

              If you like the platform, yes, I recommend it. Fun and very reliable gun to shoot. DA is a bit far compared to my other guns, but nothing crazy. It has a good (but not great) trigger break with very smooth pulls from SA.

              I have one of the original guns they made, bought it back in 1990. Have probably put 50K rounds through it with no problems.

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              • #22
                pumpkinshooter
                Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 168

                Originally posted by kingjoey
                The SIG decocker uses thumb pressure on a lever to lower the hammer. If shooting/carrying a SIG, I'll use that decocker 99% of the time since its not battering parts. Seen many an overused decocker block that was peened down far enough to not be safe or to a point that it was dragging on the firing pin. The two hand method of using the decocker lever while lowering the hammer is probably the safest all-around way of doing it.
                What type of guns have you seen with damaged decockers?

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                • #23
                  Bill Steele
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5028

                  The Beretta 92 has a decocker as well.

                  It is absolutely safe to use the decocker, BUT, who in their right mind manipulates this stuff with live rounds involved, unless the gun is pointed in a safe direction?
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                  • #24
                    CK_32
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                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14369

                    Yea it's safe I think all decockers or most block the firing pin in some way.
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                    • #25
                      Paperchasin
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                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6407

                      Whenever I decock my USP or my p226, I always keep my thumb on the hammer so that it doesn't slam home.
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                      • #26
                        CrippledPidgeon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1765

                        Originally posted by Paperchasin
                        Whenever I decock my USP or my p226, I always keep my thumb on the hammer so that it doesn't slam home.
                        Too much trouble. Let it slam home - it's designed to do that.

                        That being said, make sure that the gun is pointed in a safe direction. Mechanical things break, and you don't want to end up shooting someone because several layers of safeties failed.

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                        • #27
                          negolien
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 4829

                          Originally posted by sjm9877
                          The decocker is 100% safe, unless the firing pin safety is removed. The firing pin cannot go forward unless the trigger bar depresses the firing pin safety. That only happens when the trigger is pulled.
                          I concur sir. As a side note thumbing the hammer is bad for the sear.
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                          • #28
                            kingjoey
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 441

                            Nevermind, not worth wasting my time to explain to people that don't give a ****.
                            Last edited by kingjoey; 12-09-2013, 11:56 PM.

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                            • #29
                              kingjoey
                              Banned
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 441

                              Nevermind, not worth wasting my time to explain to people that don't give a ****.
                              Last edited by kingjoey; 12-09-2013, 11:56 PM.

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                              • #30
                                drifter2be
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 2177

                                Originally posted by Coolcom
                                Wait...what?! With a live round in the chamber?! Wow, man. Using the decocking lever is far, far more safer than manually decocking.

                                I would trust the decocking lever 100% of the time. I would not trust my thumb and index finger to not slip 100% of the time.
                                Based upon what you are describing (thumb and index finger) you are manual decocking in a very UNSAFE way. The ONLY way to ensure safety when manually decocking a DA/SA firearm is to wedge your thumb between the rear of the slide and the hammer, pull the trigger to release the hammer, then let go of the trigger and slide your thumb up, the hammer will catch on the half-cock notch. No way for the hammer to slip from between your fingers.

                                And before you try to give me grief about manually decocking, my DA/SA gun is a CZ-75B, and the only way to decock it is manually. I dislike carrying that gun cocked-and-locked, so I always decock it after chambering a round at the range, because I like to practice with first shot DA.
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