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  • #31
    Sandiegosurf1
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 80

    As of today there are 1228 Handguns available on the California DOJ Handgun Roster. That is 8 less than my original post on 11/21/13.



    During the month of November, 2013 0 (zero) new handguns were added to the roster.

    During the month of November, 2013 46 handguns were removed from the roster.

    Last edited by Sandiegosurf1; 12-02-2013, 10:42 PM. Reason: URL amended/updated
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    • #32
      m03
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 1910

      Originally posted by Sandiegosurf1
      During the month of November, 2013 46 handguns were removed from the roster.

      http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/f...ms/removed.pdf
      Broken link...

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      • #33
        kemasa
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jun 2005
        • 10706

        You can always go to the CA DOJ web page to get the links.



        Kemasa.
        False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

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        • #34
          rm1911
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 4073

          CA DOJ Handgun Roster

          Originally posted by Sandiegosurf1
          F*** glock. If they were serious they'd stop their LE contracts or say pay citizen price. Or better, refuse to sell to LE in kalifornia. But that's their business, aiding and abetting the state. So fine.

          My next pistol won't be a glock. They shoulda said if you think gen 4 are unsafe then they don't want any LE getting hurt and not ship any to this s***hole state. They're happy for my tax dollars to be used by my enslavers to purchase guns I can't, to enforce their unconstitutional laws.

          I'll only buy from manufacturers whose main clientele are citizens.
          NRA Life Member since 1990

          They're not liberals, they're leftists. Please don't use the former for the latter. Liberals are Locke, Jefferson, Burke, Hayek. Leftists are progressives, Prussian state-socialists, fascists. Liberals stand against the state and unequivocally support liberty. Leftists support state tyranny.

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          • #35
            Sandiegosurf1
            Junior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 80

            As of today there are 1215 Handguns available on the DOJ Handgun Roster.

            So far, during the month of December, 2013 6 handguns have been dropped from the roster.
            1 Smith & Wesson
            4 Walthers
            1 Sturm, Ruger & Co.

            So far, during the month of December, 2013 0 (zero) new handguns have been added to the roster.
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            • #36
              Sandiegosurf1
              Junior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 80

              December 2013 Stats

              As of today there are 1173 Handguns available on the DOJ Handgun Roster. The number of handguns available to Californians has been reduced by 63 since I started this list on November 21st 2013.

              During the month of December, 2013 48 handguns were dropped from the CA DOJ roster.

              During the month of December, 2013 0 (zero) new handguns were added to the roster.
              Last edited by Sandiegosurf1; 01-03-2014, 9:56 PM.
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              • #37
                Raidernation 247
                Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 112

                So please explain to me why the Gen 4 Glocks are not allowed in California?

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                • #38
                  Librarian
                  Admin and Poltergeist
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 44640

                  Originally posted by Raidernation 247
                  So please explain to me why the Gen 4 Glocks are not allowed in California?

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                  Apparently DOJ feels they are different from Gen 3s enough that they are 'new guns' - and require loaded chamber indicator (LCI) and magazine disconnect.
                  ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                  Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                  • #39
                    glockman19
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 10486

                    I've been posting a monthly thread listing the guns that are up for renewal. We lost 100 in the last year.

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                    • #40
                      Quiet
                      retired Goon
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 30241

                      Originally posted by Raidernation 247
                      So please explain to me why the Gen 4 Glocks are not allowed in California?
                      CA DOJ's viewpoint...
                      The Gen4 Glocks have too many internal changes for Glock to get them listed via the exemption they used to get the SF & RTF2 Glocks listed.

                      Because of that CA DOJ rejected the Gen 4 Glocks, when Glock tried to first get them listed, and told Glock the Gen 4 Glocks need to have a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator and a magazine disconnect mechanism.

                      Glock will not add those features to their pistols, so Glock is no longer actively pursuing getting the Gen 4 Glocks listed.


                      Another CA DOJ viewpoint...
                      Glock and Glock USA are two different companies.

                      Since they are "different" companies; Glock pistols made by Glock USA require a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator, a magazine disconnect mechanism and microstamping array.

                      This is why Glock pistols made in the USA are not approved.
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                      • #41
                        Raidernation 247
                        Member
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 112

                        I looked at the roster and I don't see Glock listed on the declassification post. Isn't that good?

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                        • #42
                          sothoth
                          Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 197

                          I went with a friend to Targetmasters in Milpitas and wanted to rent their CZ97b. They all laughed and said its off roster now so not to waste my time trying it if I had an eventual purchase in mind. CZ apparently made a change to the gun (according to the guy at TM, so I can't vouch for the accuracy) and thus the modified version fell off the roster. The new model would have to be submitted that complied with chamber loaded indicator, micro stamping, and mag disconnect, to be put back on.

                          The Pena v Sid argument is that there are currently zero manufacturers who use micro stamping or think it's even possible, so the Supreme Court would likely agree that this means the type of gun that is in general use by the public/military is being "banned" by virtue of the micro stamping requirement because now citizens can't buy something that's in general use.

                          I think the micro stamping part, which is effective 1/1/14, will be forced off the list of requirements the DOJ can use to exclude handguns. I'd like to see CA have to prove that the off-roster guns are really more dangerous but that's probably wishful thinking. Politicians' anecdotal and factually incorrect beliefs is what drives laws, not reason or safety. I really can't stand politicians.

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                          • #43
                            itisagoodname
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 1359

                            I wonder how much money CA makes of this roster BS. Without knowing that nobody can speculate on how it may change in the future.
                            tere hanges

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                            • #44
                              bigbob76
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3955

                              Originally posted by rm1911
                              F*** glock. If they were serious they'd stop their LE contracts or say pay citizen price. Or better, refuse to sell to LE in kalifornia. But that's their business, aiding and abetting the state. So fine.

                              My next pistol won't be a glock. They shoulda said if you think gen 4 are unsafe then they don't want any LE getting hurt and not ship any to this s***hole state. They're happy for my tax dollars to be used by my enslavers to purchase guns I can't, to enforce their unconstitutional laws.

                              I'll only buy from manufacturers whose main clientele are citizens.
                              I guess a lot of people would have a problem with S&W and Ruger also if they started digging into some of the business practices of firearms manufacturers. I'm sure there are other companies that have been less than 2A friendly.
                              If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough. Albert Einstein

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                              • #45
                                Librarian
                                Admin and Poltergeist
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 44640

                                Originally posted by itisagoodname
                                I wonder how much money CA makes of this roster BS. Without knowing that nobody can speculate on how it may change in the future.
                                Not much - it's $200 per listed model per year.
                                ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                                Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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