As I recall, for the microstamping law to go into effect, there has to be two means of microstamping which are free of patents (not free in cost from the patent holder, but free from patents). As far as I know, there are not two means of microstamping which are patent free. If I am correct on what I recall, then it means that the microstamping requirement is illegal at this point in time.
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Kemasa.
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Not quite; the PC saysAs I recall, for the microstamping law to go into effect, there has to be two means of microstamping which are free of patents (not free in cost from the patent holder, but free from patents). As far as I know, there are not two means of microstamping which are patent free. If I am correct on what I recall, then it means that the microstamping requirement is illegal at this point in time.And the DOJ has 'certified'.... provided
that the Department of Justice certifies that the technology used to
create the imprint is available to more than one manufacturer
unencumbered by any patent restrictions.ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!Comment
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Ok, so is there any means to microstamp unencumbered by ANY patent restrictions?Kemasa.
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CA DOJ Handgun Roster
As of today there are 1023 handguns available to Californians on the DOJ Handgun Roster.
213 handguns have been removed since I started this thread in November of 2013.
So far, in 2013 164 handguns have been dropped from the roster and one has been added. Yay!
THE SECOND AMENDMENT
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Anyone feeling a bit "infringed" out there in the great state of California?My front door is locked for YOUR protection, not mine.
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CA Gun Roster - Now 999 Handguns Available to us!
Well, we are now officially into triple digits; As of today there are 999 handguns available on the DOJ Handgun Roster.
So far, during the month of May 2014 38 handguns have been dropped from the roster. http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/f...ms/removed.pdf
So far, during the month of May 2014, 1 new handgun has been added to the roster. http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/f...entlyadded.pdf
THE SECOND AMENDMENT
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
Anyone feeling a bit "infringed" out there in the great state of California?My front door is locked for YOUR protection, not mine.
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How does that one handgun get added ? Doesn't it require micro stamping ?Comment
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It's a "different finish" variant of a gun that is already on the roster. The "new" gun must still be rostered, but it doesn't require retesting or the new features, just payment of fees.
Look at rostered Colts and you'll see a bunch that are commemorative versions of the same gun.sigpicNRA Benefactor MemberComment
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However law officers can buy off roster guns.CA DOJ's viewpoint...
The Gen4 Glocks have too many internal changes for Glock to get them listed via the exemption they used to get the SF & RTF2 Glocks listed.
Because of that CA DOJ rejected the Gen 4 Glocks, when Glock tried to first get them listed, and told Glock the Gen 4 Glocks need to have a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator and a magazine disconnect mechanism.
Glock will not add those features to their pistols, so Glock is no longer actively pursuing getting the Gen 4 Glocks listed.
Another CA DOJ viewpoint...
Glock and Glock USA are two different companies.
Since they are "different" companies; Glock pistols made by Glock USA require a CA DOJ approved chamber load indicator, a magazine disconnect mechanism and microstamping array.
This is why Glock pistols made in the USA are not approved.https://sites.google.com/a/armsmaster.net/www/
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1236 minus 896 is 340. Huh, why am I doing math on a Sunday night here in San Diego? Well, 1236 was the number of handguns that the good citizens of California could buy when I started this thread 10 months ago in November of 2013. Today, we can choose from 896 handguns and our choices will continue to dwindle down as time goes by. 340 handguns have been removed from the DOJ approved list in the last 10 months. If the number of guns being removed from the approved list continue at this rate of 34 a month, then in a little over 2 years, 26 months to be exact there will no longer be any handguns left for Californians to purchase.
This state is bananas man!My front door is locked for YOUR protection, not mine.
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Wow, I was just looking over that list, sorting by "date". It's like a low-grade headache that keeps pounding harder....and harder....Comment
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More than one "roster"
Olympic pistols have a roster all their own. Even some folks at DOJ aren't aware of it and some FFLs & gun stores as well. I have bought a total of 4 SW M52, -1 -2 since May from out of state using FFLs of course.1236 minus 896 is 340. Huh, why am I doing math on a Sunday night here in San Diego? Well, 1236 was the number of handguns that the good citizens of California could buy when I started this thread 10 months ago in November of 2013. Today, we can choose from 896 handguns and our choices will continue to dwindle down as time goes by. 340 handguns have been removed from the DOJ approved list in the last 10 months. If the number of guns being removed from the approved list continue at this rate of 34 a month, then in a little over 2 years, 26 months to be exact there will no longer be any handguns left for Californians to purchase.
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For this to happen, we need to get more manufacturers on board with boycotting the roster. For example, Para Ordinance is not a common/popular gun, but they have about 100 guns on the roster that they keep renewing. If they stopped renewing, it would put additional pressure on the Pena court.Comment
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