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  • bigbearbear
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5378

    Question about 1911 triggers

    I shot my colleague's Kimber 1911 last weekend, I now understand why this platform has such a following.

    What I've noticed, is that unlike my Beretta Px4 Storm, the Kimber's trigger is single stage.

    Can someone let me know if all 1911s have single stage triggers? Or do some of them have double stage triggers? Thanks.
  • #2
    350skylark
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1129

    all real 1911 have a single action trigger. I think There are some double actions out there..
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    • #3
      Bastard
      • Jul 2009
      • 2209

      there are abominations such as the PARA light double action (LDA)... but as a whole they are all single actions

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      • #4
        350skylark
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 1129

        Originally posted by Bastard
        there are abominations such as the PARA light double action (LDA)... but as a whole they are all single actions
        like i said all REAL 1911's haha
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        • #5
          redcliff
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          • Feb 2008
          • 5676

          I'm not sure the OP was talking about "single action" when he said "single-stage". He may have meant what he wrote and is asking about "single stage" versus "dual stage" trigger systems.

          1911's by their design have very short trigger reset distances and only require light trigger pressure during take-up to get to the break point of hammer/sear release i.e. single-stage. Many other designs have long heavier pulls with very little differentiation between take-up and sear release.
          Last edited by redcliff; 11-15-2013, 1:37 PM.
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          • #6
            bigbearbear
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5378

            Originally posted by redcliff
            I'm not sure the OP was talking about "single action" when he said "single-stage". He may have been referring to "single stage" versus "dual stage" trigger systems".

            1911's by their design have very short trigger reset distances and only require light trigger pressure during take-up to get to the break point of hammer/sear release i.e. single-stage. Many other designs have long heavier pulls with very little differentiation between take-up and sear release.
            Yes, I meant the trigger, single or 2-stage. Not the action (my Beretta is SA/DA but its trigger is 2-stage in SA mode).

            It sounded like 1911s mostly have single stage triggers? Meaning, there's no slag to the trigger?

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            • #7
              Cyc Wid It
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4485

              Yes, that's part of why they are superior.
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              • #8
                North Bay Guy
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1230

                Yes all 1911's are single action, they're cocked when charged, results in one action which drops the hammer. There's also no real trigger take up, just a light trigger break. 1911's are the only gun I can take to the range and fire 50 rounds and only make one hole. Is single action a safety concerns for you? To each there own, skill levels, hand fit, wants and needs etc..., very greatly. A 1911 does have a number of safety's though, including a manual safety, grip safety and firing pin block safety. Many people carry or keep there HD 1911's cocked and locked, round in the chamber safety on. If you train consistently I don't see a problem with cocked and locked.

                On the other hand, if you want a good double action/single action (DA/SA) pistol that has a great single action trigger break look into a Sig or HK.
                Last edited by North Bay Guy; 11-14-2013, 6:37 PM.

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                • #9
                  9mmepiphany
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 8075

                  Originally posted by bigbearbear
                  It sounded like 1911s mostly have single stage triggers? Meaning, there's no slag to the trigger?
                  Are you referring to the "slack?"...that is the free travel takeup prior to the trigger stirrup pressing against the sear.

                  Every 1911, I've ever felt has had some slack in the trigger travel
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                  • #10
                    bigbearbear
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5378

                    Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                    Are you referring to the "slack?"...that is the free travel takeup prior to the trigger stirrup pressing against the sear.

                    Every 1911, I've ever felt has had some slack in the trigger travel
                    Yes, I meant "slack". There aren't a lot of the slack/free travel right? Just a tiny bit and then you hit resistance and if you pull further it goes bang?

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                    • #11
                      bigbearbear
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 5378

                      Originally posted by North Bay Guy
                      Yes all 1911's are single action. No real trigger take up, a just light trigger break. 1911's are the only gun I can take to the range and fire 50 rounds and only make one hole. Is single action a safety concerns for you? To each there own, skill levels, hand fit, wants and needs etc..., very greatly. A 1911 does have a number of safety's though, including a manual safety, grip safety and firing pin block safety. Many people carry or keep there HD 1911's cocked and locked, round in the chamber safety on. If you train consistently I don't see a problem with cocked and locked.

                      On the other hand, if you want a good double action/single action (DA/SA) pistol that has a great single action trigger break look into a Sig or HK.
                      Thanks for the info, I will check out Sig and HKs too.

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                      • #12
                        trigger945
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                        • Sep 2012
                        • 5795

                        Those 1911 triggers are nice aren't they? They kinda spoil the user.
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                        • #13
                          Blackhorse2010
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 699

                          Minimal slack in my Sig 1911, then a nice crisp break.
                          And yes, it's easy to get spoiled with sweet 1911 triggers.

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                          • #14
                            Ninja45
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 624

                            When I go to the range, I shoot my Glock 21 first, then the Sig 220, then the 1911. If shoot it in the reverse order, I don't get the same satisfying results. I love the .45 ACP round and it's best launched from a 1911 platform, IMHO.

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                            • #15
                              Mute
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                              • Oct 2005
                              • 8556

                              A clean 1911 trigger will have little to no take up. Some stock triggers might have more and can vary across the board, but for the most part, that take up should be minimal if the trigger parts are normal.
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