BE SURE TO CHECK THE GUN WHEN DOING PPT

[18Dmedic]

You have to inspect what you're buying. Period. Ask to meet at a lgs with a range. Have the seller fire the thing first. Make sure it operates as designed. Then strip it down (std field strip) and inspect parts.

If you still want to proceed with the transaction at this point, take a vid on your phone with a date proof (front page of newspaper) of it in perfect operation.

This way, the lgs clerk can't say that it hasn't been touched there while in his custody. If he does, you show the vid and ask them to pay for any necessary repairs at a factory authorized repair center.

Hope this helps some of our fellow CGNrs. And please be sure to leave a feedback after each transaction. Some of us don't deal with people unless they have a good iTrader score. So please leave feedback.

[bsg]

will look for the update.

[rambutan316]

I would fully disassemble/check a pistol as much as possible before i even hand the cash. If he seller doesn't allow it then its a no go.

Great advice. I can understand how some people get nervous when I ask to disassemble the gun, but how else am I going to know about the internal condition?

Hopefully SW will take care of you. They are a great company and I don't think they will let you down.

[The Gleam]

Damn that sucks. I hope the seller honestly didn't realize there was a crack in the frame or is it that obvious?

I think that could easily happen with a Scandium-framed gun, especially where the crack is located. There is a good reason for that steel tab above the cylinder, to avoid gas-cutting the top-strap; if that is a sign of something being prone to weakness, and you have to steel line the barrel because it can't be machined without mulching unintended chunks out of it, then it's quite possible such a fracture could develop while shooting it and the owner may not even know unless cleaning it thoroughly.

Looking at the gun, then the crack, I bet this happened with only a few rounds through it and the seller didn't even know.

I question the 25 round total. Having owned a few nickel and stainless revolvers in my time, it takes more than 25 rounds to leave "burn" marks like is shown on the cylinder of this weapon.

You can't compare the Scandium alloy integrity to your steel/stainless steel revolvers at all. Also, these scandium guns already have these burn marks on the cylinder face as you are describing, upon receipt from the factory; I have never seen an S&W scandium revolver without them.

At best, these are carry guns, not range-repeat guns - or at least I would not rust them to be; it is quite possible there was a problem just waiting to expose itself inside of 25 rounds with that frame and it could very well have happened on the last few rounds on any particular day the prior owner had been shooting - and it sure looks that way to me from the larger photo. It looks like new, but is a cracked; that is a quality-control defect direct from the factory, that the factor MUST repair out of decency, no matter that it was a used gun.

This is a S&W integrity of material problem on a modern gun, still relatively new, and something they should fix at no charge. There is no excuse for this firearm to exhibit a crack such as that, and I am willing to bet the original seller went to the range, came home, put the gun away wet(dirty) then decided to sell it because he wasn't fond of the Scandium frame's recoil in .44MAG.

The steal of a price? Well.... no comment. That is the only thing that may feed skepticism about whether the seller knew or not; but sometimes, if people don't like something (which I could understand from a Scandium-frame .44MAG) they will price it low just to get rid of what they consider a pig.

[jyo]

Again I say; fully disassemble my gun---that ain't gonna happen---however, I am perfectly willing to allow the buyer to test-fire the piece (with factory new ammo only---I had a guy who wanted to shoot his own reloads---that ain't gonna happen either)---I'll even shoot it first, no problem.
I would have to say, most people I've met thru CalGuns are people I would invite out to my private shooting club (and I have), but there are a few that I would not want around me with a loaded gun...

[squiddo]

Good luck

[1CavScout]

S&W hopefully will take care of you. The frame on my 629 cracked years ago, and S&W covered everything without a problem. Good luck.

[Edwood]

I always field strip a gun to check internals beforehand, even with a brand spanking new gun. If the store / seller won't let me, then I walk away.

[jonzer77]

I always field strip a gun to check internals beforehand, even with a brand spanking new gun. If the store / seller won't let me, then I walk away.

Same here. I have no issue with the seller field stripping it themselves and not letting a random person do it either.

[Pauliedad]

Tag for resolution.

[bigbob76]

I would fully disassemble/check a pistol as much as possible before i even hand the cash. If he seller doesn't allow it then its a no go.

I would be interested in watching the look on the sellers face when somebody he didn't know started disassembling his firearm. Is the seller supposed to assume you have any idea what you're doing? If you launch a spring that disappears would you just hand him a pile of parts and say I changed my mind?

[BigPimping]

I bought an AK here not long ago and the seller insisted it was perfect. Field strip looked ok and action was smooth. When I finally got to range, it would not strip rounds off mag. I had to see a AK expert and tweak it to being fixed. Pissed me off. when I contacted the seller, he just played like he never had that problem. I have never had a problem in marketplace here until this happened. It works fine now thankfully.

[Zedrek]

I've always said there needs to be a post count before selling here. I've burned quite a few times with new sellers. Back when the AR craze hit 8 months ago, all you would see is new members 1, 2 posts and that was in their own thread. Maybe this guy needed a place to dump his gun real quick, post a couple times then bail out never to be seen again.

Sorry to hear that.

I disagree. You can always go to OT and post to your heart's content but it won't be a sure sign of reliability. Inspection is the key to buying a gun. I can sell you a gun that I say I only put 50 rounds through it but if I bought it from someone else ho many did they put through it? People lie or are uninformed so it's best to just inspect it thoroughly yourself.

[Eljay]

Same here. I have no issue with the seller field stripping it themselves and not letting a random person do it either.

I think that's key. If somebody wants to see the guts I'm cool with that, but I don't want them necessarily doing it themselves depending on the gun.

[m1a1driver]

the S&W support system is HORRIBLE now... their email replies are late and very vague, they just say to call them and when I do i'm on hold EVERY time for over 45 mins.....