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  • #31
    .50DE
    Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 160

    My DE was my first handgun purchase when I turned 21. Granted I had spent alot of time shooting the other *normal* size guns in my family. However this was the first one that I wanted to devote alot of time too. Granted it was a .44 at the time of purchase, and a mark 7 it was a good training tool for me. If you flinch when shooting, the DE can help you work that out. Once you get over flinching with something like that everything else is easy. Recoil with these things is delt with in a diffrent manner than most weapons. You cannot limp wrist or absorb the recoil when firing the DE, it will cause feeding or extration problems. That being said if you lock up when shooting instead of rolling with it the recoil isnt all that bad. Now that being said even my wife injoyed shooting my eagle with my hot handloads, to that end she wants her own now. She says she likes the weight and feel of it. I cant say that I can blame her because after spending any good amout of time with it in sevral shooting sessions it dose grow on you. Not that long ago I upgraded it to mark 19 specs and went to .50AE. I was ecspecting alot more in the way of recoil the first time I shot it. To me the .50 has a slower recoil. It dose want to have a fair amount of muzzle climb but it dosnt have the snap to it that my .44 did. Im kinda SOL now, since my wife shot the .50 she wants one of here own, so instead of just buying the .44 I have to get and .50 barrel for it now to * see how this can get outta control* lol.They will eat you out of house and home when buying ammo if you let them. Your best bet would be to reload or to buy online. I've had great results with the 300 grain golddot ammo. All that being said if you want a .50, buy one. Get one new, just order the new barrel. Yes that safety stuff can be removed. Will be the first thing I do when I buy my wifes because it dose not hold up well and will cause malfuntions in short order. Once you get over the flinch and get that gun dialed in you will have any other gun by the horns. I went from being strickly a DE guy to shooting 1911's to. After the DE the 1911's are like pop guns, and belive me that makes it all the more fun. All in all, do research online * there are sevral good boards dedicated to the Eagle* and make a smart purchase. They are picky dirty birds, just keep it well feed and clean and you will be ok.

    Sorry for the terrible spelling and structure guys, its late and I'm tired so try not to pick on me to much ok?

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    • #32
      atoyf
      Junior Member
      • May 2006
      • 26

      Fantastic feedback!

      Thank you!

      Originally posted by .50DE
      My DE was my first handgun purchase when I turned 21. Granted I had spent alot of time shooting the other *normal* size guns in my family. However this was the first one that I wanted to devote alot of time too. Granted it was a .44 at the time of purchase, and a mark 7 it was a good training tool for me. If you flinch when shooting, the DE can help you work that out. Once you get over flinching with something like that everything else is easy. Recoil with these things is delt with in a diffrent manner than most weapons. You cannot limp wrist or absorb the recoil when firing the DE, it will cause feeding or extration problems. That being said if you lock up when shooting instead of rolling with it the recoil isnt all that bad. Now that being said even my wife injoyed shooting my eagle with my hot handloads, to that end she wants her own now. She says she likes the weight and feel of it. I cant say that I can blame her because after spending any good amout of time with it in sevral shooting sessions it dose grow on you. Not that long ago I upgraded it to mark 19 specs and went to .50AE. I was ecspecting alot more in the way of recoil the first time I shot it. To me the .50 has a slower recoil. It dose want to have a fair amount of muzzle climb but it dosnt have the snap to it that my .44 did. Im kinda SOL now, since my wife shot the .50 she wants one of here own, so instead of just buying the .44 I have to get and .50 barrel for it now to * see how this can get outta control* lol.They will eat you out of house and home when buying ammo if you let them. Your best bet would be to reload or to buy online. I've had great results with the 300 grain golddot ammo. All that being said if you want a .50, buy one. Get one new, just order the new barrel. Yes that safety stuff can be removed. Will be the first thing I do when I buy my wifes because it dose not hold up well and will cause malfuntions in short order. Once you get over the flinch and get that gun dialed in you will have any other gun by the horns. I went from being strickly a DE guy to shooting 1911's to. After the DE the 1911's are like pop guns, and belive me that makes it all the more fun. All in all, do research online * there are sevral good boards dedicated to the Eagle* and make a smart purchase. They are picky dirty birds, just keep it well feed and clean and you will be ok.

      Sorry for the terrible spelling and structure guys, its late and I'm tired so try not to pick on me to much ok?

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      • #33
        ohsmily
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2005
        • 8953

        For Gram and 50DE (who can't spell) and other posters who say that the Desert Eagle is a good way of eliminating flinch/recoil anticipation and is thus a good first gun: You are looking at that issue in an ***-backward way that is completely counter to reality. If you start on .22's and work your way up, you won't have developed a flinch to begin with. If you start with a big banger, then every time you pull the trigger, you are conditioned to expect a big bang, whether it is a .22 or a 9mm and you will have to work that out of your habit. The whole point is it is hard to eliminate recoil on a big gun, and even more difficult when you don't have shooting experience. There is a reason they start new shooters on lower caliber weapons. There aren't any training schools that have big bore guns as the entry level intro guns.

        Justifying buying a desert eagle as a first gun for the practice aspect of it is really silly. If you want a Desert Eagle for your first gun, do it for the honest and real reason: because it looks cool and it is in alot of movies and some people might "ooh" and "aah" it at the range when you whip it out.
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        Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.

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        • #34
          chickenfried
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7160

          "a lot" not "alot"

          Originally posted by ohsmily
          There aren't any training schools that have big bore guns as the entry level intro guns.

          Justifying buying a desert eagle as a first gun for the practice aspect of it is really silly. If you want a Desert Eagle for your first gun, do it for the honest and real reason: because it looks cool and it is in alot of movies and some people might "ooh" and "aah" it at the range when you whip it out.
          Originally posted by victor1echo
          Hollywood is satan!!!!
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          • #35
            50caliberguy
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4

            Hey Dave

            Im taking good care of your desert eagle, haha.


            Jason

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            • #36
              Bling Bling 2.0
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 687

              I don't think a DE is a good first gun, but it's your money and if that is what you want, go and get it if you find one. People whined a good one when I got my MAK-90 (AK47 type) as my first gun, but guess what? I wouldn't have been able to afford one and would have missed my only opportunity to have a registered one if I would have listened to them.

              There is a lot of good advice on this board but you are the one that has to live with whatever decision you make. And if you won't be happy until you own a DE, then you should just get one.
              "You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends on the couch"

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              • #37
                ohsmily
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2005
                • 8953

                Originally posted by chickenfried
                "a lot" not "alot"
                DOH! Missed the space bar I suppose. I should have just written "many" instead of "a lot" (or the typo "alot).
                Expert firearms attorney: https://www.rwslaw.com/team/adam-j-richards/

                Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.

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                • #38
                  paradox
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 3588

                  Originally posted by ohsmily
                  DOH! Missed the space bar I suppose. I should have just written "many" instead of "a lot" (or the typo "alot).
                  As my high school journalism teacher used to say, " 'a lot'? What the hell does a small square of land have to do with what you're talking about?"
                  * Freedom is the human right to live your life however you damn well please, so long as you don't interfere with another's right to do the same.
                  * "Don't believe them, don't fear them, don't ask anything of them." --Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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                  • #39
                    .50DE
                    Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 160

                    Originally posted by ohsmily
                    For Gram and 50DE (who can't spell) and other posters who say that the Desert Eagle is a good way of eliminating flinch/recoil anticipation and is thus a good first gun: You are looking at that issue in an ***-backward way that is completely counter to reality. If you start on .22's and work your way up, you won't have developed a flinch to begin with. If you start with a big banger, then every time you pull the trigger, you are conditioned to expect a big bang, whether it is a .22 or a 9mm and you will have to work that out of your habit. The whole point is it is hard to eliminate recoil on a big gun, and even more difficult when you don't have shooting experience. There is a reason they start new shooters on lower caliber weapons. There aren't any training schools that have big bore guns as the entry level intro guns.

                    Justifying buying a desert eagle as a first gun for the practice aspect of it is really silly. If you want a Desert Eagle for your first gun, do it for the honest and real reason: because it looks cool and it is in alot of movies and some people might "ooh" and "aah" it at the range when you whip it out.
                    Before you go saying I have things *** backwards pay more attention to what I wrote
                    "it was a good training tool for me. If you flinch when shooting, the DE can help you work that out."

                    But I guess " it was a good training tool for me, and the DE CAN help you work that out can loose something in translation.

                    I said it worked for me. I didnt say that it will cure any problems or bad habbits a person may have.

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                    • #40
                      ohsmily
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 8953

                      Originally posted by .50DE
                      Before you go saying I have things *** backwards pay more attention to what I wrote
                      "it was a good training tool for me. If you flinch when shooting, the DE can help you work that out."

                      But I guess " it was a good training tool for me, and the DE CAN help you work that out can loose something in translation.

                      I said it worked for me. I didnt say that it will cure any problems or bad habbits a person may have.
                      Can it LOOSE something, or LOSE something? Did something come loose? Or was something lost? hmmm.....

                      "Habbit" is not a word in the English language. Did you mean Hobbit? "The DE can cure any problems or bad Hobbits (naughty Frodo) that a person may have?" I think you meant "habit".


                      ALSO:
                      the DE can help you work that out."
                      I said it worked for me. I didnt say that it will cure any problems or bad habbits a person may have.
                      So, first you say that "the DE can help YOU (addressing everyone else) work that out" (the flinching problems), and then you say that you didn't say that it will cure any problems or bad habits a person may have. So which is it??? Is your last name Kerry by chance?
                      I read your post just fine; nothing was lost in translation. You simply fail to comprehend what you posted because it is clear that you did say that it could cure any problems or bad habits that a person may have.

                      Anyway, I am done with you. It is just too easy (but fun).
                      Last edited by ohsmily; 05-11-2006, 10:50 PM.
                      Expert firearms attorney: https://www.rwslaw.com/team/adam-j-richards/

                      Check out https://www.firearmsunknown.com/. Support a good calgunner local to San Diego.

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                      • #41
                        .50DE
                        Member
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 160

                        Originally posted by ohsmily
                        Can it LOOSE something, or LOSE something? Did something come loose? Or was something lost? hmmm.....

                        "Habbit" is not a word in the English language. Did you mean Hobbit? "The DE can cure any problems or bad Hobbits (naughty Frodo) that a person may have?" I think you meant "habit".


                        ALSO:



                        So, first you say that "the DE can help YOU (addressing everyone else) work that out" (the flinching problems), and then you say that you didn't say that it will cure any problems or bad habits a person may have. So which is it??? Is your last name Kerry by chance?
                        I read your post just fine; nothing was lost in translation. You simply fail to comprehend what you posted because it is clear that you did say that it could cure any problems or bad habits that a person may have.

                        Anyway, I am done with you. It is just too easy (but fun).
                        Done? already? and I was having so much fun! *nails you with a water balloon* It was late, and I did not have the best time putting into words what I was trying to relate.

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                        • #42
                          saki302
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 7187

                          Hey Jason!

                          Glad you're enjoying it! Watch out for that special box of bullets- a guy in Texas gave them to me- you know those nutty Texans
                          He got the DE added to his CCW permit

                          Your .44 upper likes the Miwall +P+ reloads- not bad for $12/50 rounds!

                          The one you've got (my old one) was always very accurate in my hands- I just moved on to other odder things (M2HB TIppman miniature, etc.).
                          Never mind my local indoor range didn't want me to fire the DE there- no JHP ammo.. like you can find anything else for the DE.. Your .50 groups like a target pistol out to 15 meters if your arms don't tire.

                          If I want the big boom now I drag out the .50BMG. It's a good way to clear the sinuses! I don't have any pistols heavier than .357 mag. right now- maybe that'll change if S&W makes a .500 scandium

                          -Dave

                          Originally posted by 50caliberguy
                          Hey Dave

                          Im taking good care of your desert eagle, haha.


                          Jason
                          Last edited by saki302; 05-12-2006, 3:12 AM.

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                          • #43
                            Runtagua
                            Junior Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 16

                            The purchase of a handgun is not unlike a purchase of a car. It involves personal prefference. Not everyone may like your choice, but ultimately the choice is yours and you must drive it.
                            Hope for the best, be prepared for the worst.

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                            • #44
                              taloft
                              Well used Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2696

                              It's your money, buy what you want. I would be able to buy two nice guns for what you are spending on one. The only thing more fun than one gun is more than one gun.
                              .




                              "Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something."--Plato

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                              • #45
                                atoyf
                                Junior Member
                                • May 2006
                                • 26

                                Originally posted by taloft
                                The only thing more fun than one gun is more than one gun.
                                sounds like a saying

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