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  • #16
    drifter2be
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2177

    Originally posted by Bongos
    Was afraid of that, you will feel significant snap in the recoil, possibly to a point you will not like shooting it.. the Sig P238 with delayed blow back cushions the harsh recoil to manageable level.. personally I never did like the old fixed barrel designs like the Walther PPK, Makarov, bersa designs.
    As stated in my OP, this ain't my first time out with the Bersa Thunder series. I actually have quite a bit of prior experience with blowback 380 pistols, between my two Thunder 380s my GF's Thunder 380CC and my old Walther PPK and PPK/S. Compared to a PPK, the recoil of a Bersa Thunder 380 is nothing.

    Ummm, you keep saying delayed blow back in reference to the P238. The P238 is a recoil operated pistol.
    Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
    Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

    "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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    • #17
      drifter2be
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 2177

      Originally posted by acpbrain
      A combat 380
      how cute is that
      Hey, there are plenty of people on Calguns that swear that 380 is the perfect round for a gunfight

      While I agree it is a silly name to give a gun like this, I find it more aesthetically pleasing than the standard Thunder 380 model.
      Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
      Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

      "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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      • #18
        acpbrain
        Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 266

        ...
        Last edited by acpbrain; 10-08-2013, 3:14 PM. Reason: couldn't post photo

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        • #19
          Bongos
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4095

          Originally posted by drifter2be
          Ummm, you keep saying delayed blow back in reference to the P238. The P238 is a recoil operated pistol.
          Delayed blowback meaning the pistol is designed like most full size pistol in that barrel is not connected to the frame, then the trigger is pulled, as the slide goes back due to recoil, the barrel unlocks and disconnect from the slide, tilting down word, this design helps expel and distribute recoil. The designed originated in the 1911.

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          • #20
            drifter2be
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 2177

            Originally posted by Bongos
            Delayed blowback meaning the pistol is designed like most full size pistol in that barrel is not connected to the frame, then the trigger is pulled, as the slide goes back due to recoil, the barrel unlocks and disconnect from the slide, tilting down word, this design helps expel and distribute recoil. The designed originated in the 1911.
            Please feel free to actually look up the phrase "delayed blowback pistol". What you just described (1911) is a locked-breech design.

            Wanna try again? I'm always entertained by stuff like this, lemme guess, you work at the gun counter of somewhere like, oh, let's say Turner's?

            To my knowledge delayed-blowback pistols are highly uncommon. The only two I can name off hand are the HK P9 which uses a roller-delayed blowback design and the HK P7 which uses a gas delayed blowback system.
            Last edited by drifter2be; 10-08-2013, 9:34 PM.
            Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
            Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

            "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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            • #21
              Bongos
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4095

              Originally posted by drifter2be
              Please feel free to actually look up the phrase "delayed blowback pistol". What you just described (1911) is a locked-breech design.

              Wanna try again? I'm always entertained by stuff like this, lemme guess, you work at the gun counter of somewhere like, oh, let's say Turner's?

              To my knowledge delayed-blowback pistols are highly uncommon. The only two I can name off hand are the HK P9 which uses a roller-delayed blowback design and the HK P7 which uses a gas delayed blowback system.
              ok, You are correct.. my definition is wrong
              Last edited by Bongos; 10-08-2013, 10:56 PM.

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              • #22
                hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                Bongos, don't sweat it.

                You might as well hear it here instead of...well, you know.

                Anyhow, if you get the chance to hit a gunshow, take a 2nd look at the old guys with the even older used books for sale. The inter-webb is cool, but 99% or more of the gun stuff information on the compooter originated from those old-time books. That is my story and I'm sticking to it.

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                • #23
                  drifter2be
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2177

                  Gun arrived yesterday. Overall I'm honestly not that impressed. The trigger is extremely rough through the pull and stacks heavily before the break in DA, the single action pull is entirely too heavy. The trigger feels wider than the triggers on my old Bersa pistols, but without having them side by side that is just an assumption.

                  Fit and finish is decent, didn't really notice any tooling marks inside the slide or frame. The sights are set up like a Glock, white dot front/square outline rear.
                  Feels decent in my hands, but I can't get past the poor quality of the trigger (yes it is a "cheaper" gun but the three I have shoot in the past were much smoother and lighter). I will give it 200 rounds + 300 dry firing before the first range trip to start smoothing out, otherwise it will be off to backpage and I'll replace it with a Walther PPK/S or possibly a PK380.

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                  Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepared to see them misunderstood. - H.L Mencken
                  Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. - Han Solo

                  "Moms Demand Action" sounds less like a gun control group and more like the title of a porn flick from the mid-90s.

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                  • #24
                    One78Shovel
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 2962

                    I have the Bersa 380 Thunder and it's with me in the pocket at home, or on my hip while out on my scooters

                    A combination of concealment and reliability

                    Fun gun to shoot too

                    -178S

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                    • #25
                      acpbrain
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 266



                      closet 380 owner
                      I've carried this close to 20 yrs

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                      • #26
                        morrcarr67
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 15039

                        Originally posted by acpbrain


                        closet 380 owner
                        I've carried this close to 20 yrs
                        I hand a Grendel P-10. Hated it. Sold it after the second time to the range with it.

                        I'm glad yours was better then mine.
                        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                        Originally posted by Erion929

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                        • #27
                          acpbrain
                          Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 266

                          It is kind of weird to reload, but it always goes bang

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                          • #28
                            morrcarr67
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 15039

                            That was my biggest issue with mine. The M-16 stripper clips worked sometimes and try to load one at a time was a PITA.
                            Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                            Originally posted by Erion929

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