Beretta 92 ergonomics/trigger

[cc426]

So I have a beretta m9a1 with the d spring mod done. I've rented a regular 92fs just to check and I've got the same problem with both. The ergonomics and trigger just don't seem to agree with me. I have large hands, I wear XL/XXL gloves and seem to have the opposite problem most others have and wanted to see what anyone else has done to make it better?

Here's my gripes:
- the trigger break is very far back, it feels like my hand is completely closed before the trigger breaks. My trigger finger is aligned with my other fingers on the grip when it breaks, this just feels very weird to me.
- Very long reset in the trigger. I short stroke it sometimes when rapid firing

This is compared to my sigs, 1911s, CZ, and glocks. All my other guns seem fine to me except my beretta. I want to like my beretta, anyone else have a similar issue? How did you fix it?

[cc426]

Please see the pictures and notice the relation of my trigger finger to my middle finger/other fingers

Sorry about t the crappy cell pictures

[pontiacpratt]

I've got big palms and short fingers and Beretta Ergos fit me well. Different strokes for different folks. I'm sure someone will give a fair price for your M9A1 if it's too intolerable.

[gds23]

I had the same issue with a sig 220 combat. It was an easy fix though I just sold it and bought another 1911 problem solved

[Varg Vikernes]

Pretty sure you can replace the trigger with something better.

[Roland Deschain]

the trigger break is very far back, it feels like my hand is completely closed before the trigger breaks. My trigger finger is aligned with my other fingers on the grip when it breaks, this just feels very weird to me.

Yup.

Very long reset in the trigger. I short stroke it sometimes when rapid firing

Haven't noticed that

How did you fix it?

I didn't do anything to my M9A1 but train with it and now it lives under my pillow...

[pc_load_letter]

Yeah, the slack is very long on the beretta. I personally don't have a problem with it as I have smallish hands.

Perhaps contact this guy...http://www.triggerwork.net/Beretta.html

Or research other options to reduce the trigger slack.

[jimmythebrain]

That is a typical Beretta 92 series trigger. They have a lot of take up and over travel.

If you do not like that type of trigger movement then it is best to just sell the gun rather than trying to change it. Even with a lot of money spent, the trigger will never have short pull or short reset.

[9mmepiphany]

Just a quick look at your picture and it looks like you have your trigger finger too far into the trigger guard...i.e.: too much finger on the trigger. (almost to the first crease)

What is happening is you are using up all the slack in your finger and having to tighten the knuckle of the palm to apply more pressure. This is pretty common when folks add the Short (thin) Trigger to a SIG, because they like getting more finger on the trigger helps with the DA trigger pull.

Try backing your finger out of the trigger guard until the face of the trigger is meeting the pad of your first joint about mid-way down the finger nail pad. This will cause your trigger finger, from the palm forward, to flare out (away) from the frame of the gun and tighten your groups a bit.

[sjm9877]

Practice, practice, practice....

You can do better than the D spring. Get a 18lb 1911 spring form wolf. It's about as light as you can go. Very rarley you will get a light primer strike. Polishing the trigger parts will smooth out the pull. As far as the break & reset. That's where the practice comes in.

[DrewTheBrave]

Just a quick look at your picture and it looks like you have your trigger finger too far into the trigger guard...i.e.: too much finger on the trigger. (almost to the first crease)

What is happening is you are using up all the slack in your finger and having to tighten the knuckle of the palm to apply more pressure. This is pretty common when folks add the Short (thin) Trigger to a SIG, because they like getting more finger on the trigger helps with the DA trigger pull.

Try backing your finger out of the trigger guard until the face of the trigger is meeting the pad of your first joint about mid-way down the finger nail pad. This will cause your trigger finger, from the palm forward, to flare out (away) from the frame of the gun and tighten your groups a bit.

Nailed it. Keep the pad of your finger on the trigger. One trick I found works surprisingly well with a long trigger reach is to adjust your grip by moving your palm closer to the backstrap (moving your right thumb farther forward & lessening the trigger finger slack)

[cc426]

Just a quick look at your picture and it looks like you have your trigger finger too far into the trigger guard...i.e.: too much finger on the trigger. (almost to the first crease)

What is happening is you are using up all the slack in your finger and having to tighten the knuckle of the palm to apply more pressure. This is pretty common when folks add the Short (thin) Trigger to a SIG, because they like getting more finger on the trigger helps with the DA trigger pull.

Try backing your finger out of the trigger guard until the face of the trigger is meeting the pad of your first joint about mid-way down the finger nail pad. This will cause your trigger finger, from the palm forward, to flare out (away) from the frame of the gun and tighten your groups a bit.

When I am shooting all my other guns my trigger is on the pad. Here's the problem with the Beretta, because of how far back the trigger breaks and how large my hands are the trigger doesn't break until my finger is far beyond 90 degrees. The distance from the web of my hand to the 2nd knuckle is longer than the back strap to the trigger breaking point. This leads me to have to rotate my finger either inwards or outwards to get enough length of pull.

When shooting slow groups I can shoot the Beretta accurately, 1 inch groups at 15 yrds. My problem is when I speed it up everything goes to hell and also it just doesn't feel right

[cc426]

Sounds like there's not a lot you can do to change it...I was hoping there would be some aftermarket grips that would help...may end up just having to sell it, makes me sad, I think its one of the best looking pistols out there

[sjm9877]

You could try a wrap around grip to add some distance. It might put your finger in a better position.

Or maybe the Beretta is just not for you.

[ironhorse1]

I wasn't consistent with mine until I added some Hogue finger groove grips.

This allowed the fingers to fit into the same spot every time.

It helped with the trigger pull and keeping the shots centered on the target.

Just my $.02

irh