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  • TonyNorCal
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2004
    • 7912

    CZ-52s are back

    I'm getting one . Ammo is priced right. And I hear these are pretty nifty pistols...firing a round at 1600 fps+. Some replace the firing pins which I hear can be brittle. As they are C&R they are exempt from Cali's lame approval list...but of course still need to go through an FFL. I am sure there is an owner here who can tell us more. For 139 I am in.



    J&G Sales is a family owned guns and ammo business since 1946. We always strive to provide our customers with high quality product at low prices.


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    Last edited by TonyNorCal; 04-30-2006, 10:18 PM.
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    Originally posted by TonyNorCal
    I'm getting one . Ammo is priced right. And I hear these are pretty nifty pistols...firing a round at 1600 fps+. Some replace the firing pins which I hear can be brittle. As they are C&R they are exempt from Cali's lame approval list...but of course still need to go through an FFL. I am sure there is an owner here who can tell us more. For 139 I am in.



    J&G Sales is a family owned guns and ammo business since 1946. We always strive to provide our customers with high quality product at low prices.


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    http://p201.ezboard.com/fczechpistols82792frm59
    Where can I find the ATF list of C&R handguns?

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    • #3
      TonyNorCal
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2004
      • 7912

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      • #4
        wayoutwest
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2003
        • 727

        Tony if you were planning on ordering several, I would happily PPT one from you.
        ...teach your children well...

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        • #5
          wuhungsix
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 813

          interesting.

          Can you put more than one of these on a DROS?
          ...wondering if its different with it being C&R item.

          If so I think I'm in for 2.

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          • #6
            saki302
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2005
            • 7187

            handgun DROS'es are one at a time. The ONLY excpetion is PPT transfer, or if you got one the way I did.

            If I use my C&R licnese to buy a C&R handgun(s) out of state, I can reg multiple pistols at once when I return to CA- did just that for a CZ52, an old Inglis BHP, and a Lahti

            -Dave

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            • #7
              m1371
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1118

              Originally posted by saki302
              handgun DROS'es are one at a time. The ONLY excpetion is PPT transfer, or if you got one the way I did.

              -Dave
              I was under the impression that an individual with a C&R FFL and a COE was exempt from both the 10-day wait and the one gun per month restriction.

              Yes? No?
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              • #8

                I have been on the fence for a while on these, but the ammo price for corrosive is more expensive than the cheapest NC 9mm.

                but that boom, and the flash, and the speed.....

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                • #9
                  Rumpled
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1636

                  Originally posted by m1371
                  I was under the impression that an individual with a C&R FFL and a COE was exempt from both the 10-day wait and the one gun per month restriction.

                  Yes? No?
                  Yes, but in state you still have to DROS at a dealer.

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                  • #10
                    m1371
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1118

                    Originally posted by Rumpled
                    Yes, but in state you still have to DROS at a dealer.
                    But...... With the 03FFL/COE you'd just complete the DROS paperwork and walk out the door with your gun(s). Correct?
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                    • #11
                      m1371
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 1118

                      Originally posted by glen avon
                      I have been on the fence for a while on these, but the ammo price for corrosive is more expensive than the cheapest NC 9mm.

                      but that boom, and the flash, and the speed.....

                      What about the 7.62x25 that AIM has listed on the same page with the CZ52?

                      72rds = $8.25

                      1224 = $129.95


                      Good deal or not?
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                      • #12
                        timmy8151
                        Member
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 412

                        Originally posted by m1371
                        But...... With the 03FFL/COE you'd just complete the DROS paperwork and walk out the door with your gun(s). Correct?
                        Correct. Does anyone know of any stores in Norcal that would happen to have a CZ52 in stock?

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                        • #13
                          kenc9
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 1774





                          The CZ52 pack a pretty good punch, the pistol was originally chambered in the 7.62x25 or 7.62 Tokarev bottle-necked cartridge. While this cartridge shares the physical dimensions of the Tokarev cartridge, it can be loaded hotter than the standard 7.62 Tokarev As such, care should be taken when selecting ammunition to match the pistol.

                          Several East Bloc submachine guns, including the PPSh-41 are chambered in 7.62x25. These fire a yet more potent version of this caliber. Again, care should be taken to avoid firing these subgun rounds in both the Tokarev and CZ-52.

                          The CZ-52 pistol can be converted to fire 9x19 simply by changing the barrel. Some pistols have been retrofitted from the factory with a 9mm barrel, and aftermarket barrels are available. There are some feeding and extraction issues related to this.

                          The CZ-52 is considered a curio & relic by the BATF and is on the BATF's C&R list for collectors with C&R Federal Firearms License. Note that only the original caliber of 7.62x25 and not the 9mm conversions are considered C&R. Converting your 7.62x25 to 9mm is a gray area as far as its C&R status. However, there's nothing illegal about the conversion.
                          Last edited by kenc9; 05-01-2006, 10:09 AM.
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                          • #14

                            Originally posted by m1371
                            What about the 7.62x25 that AIM has listed on the same page with the CZ52?

                            72rds = $8.25

                            1224 = $129.95


                            Good deal or not?
                            that's a pretty good deal for that ammo. century, J and G, SOG, AIM, SG, all have about the same price on that stuff.

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                            • #15
                              maxicon
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 4661

                              Originally posted by m1371
                              What about the 7.62x25 that AIM has listed on the same page with the CZ52?

                              72rds = $8.25

                              1224 = $129.95


                              Good deal or not?
                              There are some good resources for finding out about milsurp CZ52 ammo:





                              My 7.62x25 milsurp experience has been hard primers, sometimes requiring a double-strike to ignite, and brittle brass that cracks at the neck or above the base. Some lots are better than others.

                              S&B is the main modern manufacturer, though Wolf has recently started offering it as well. I've had good luck with the S&B, and haven't tried the Wolf, as I don't really shoot my CZ52 much.

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