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  • Secession Arms
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 11

    Introducing Secession Arms

    I'm not new to this site. I've been posting under Bluedog for awhile now as I've been learning an incredible amount of information about firearms legislation here.

    I did something unthinkable and had the audacity to open a firearms manufacturing company in Diane Feinstein's backyard here in the Bay Area. It has literally been a battle with local municipalities over the past 18 months to get my Series 7 FFL and get on the CA DOJ Centralized List. Kudos to the ATF for being very helpful through this process! Anyhow, I'm setting out to do something different in the 1911 world that I believe has never been done before. I want to bring the 1911 into the contemporary 21st century by embellishing it with iconic themes that resonate with guys. I'm not talking old school engraving or gold enletting but literally "chiseling" out my art using a file on the frame and slide. To provide the necessary canvas needed, I will be manufacturing my own frames/slides and other parts. I'm currently working on the g-code and doing a lot of prototyping. I've shared my AutoCad designs with one of the top 1911 gunsmiths in the world who got really excited about my vision and he invited me out to his ranch to hone my skills to create highly accurate "bulls-eye" guns that I will incorporate into my 1911s. I'm leaving in September to learn from this legend.

    Although I have not established pricing yet, I'm targeting the luxury firearms market... think guys who buy Holland & Holland. The 1911 market has never reached out to very high end connoisseurs who like expensive collectibles. Just so we are clear, I'm not describing limited edition Colts with fancy engraving that sell for $5K. I'm thinking much much bigger in every direction! Hence, entry into this market requires a different type of marketing approach and customer experience. This is why my website http://www.secessionarms.com does not look like your typical gun website. And this is only the beginning...

    As with art, some people will like it, some will hate it, but nobody will be able to ignore it. That's all in artist can hope for! To commemorate my journey, I created a T-shirt that makes a poignant political statement through symbolism you can find on my website. Come to think of it, maybe my company's name makes a statement, too! LOL

    Enjoy,
    Todd
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    ptgarcia
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 744

    I look forward to seeing your work. I wish you good luck!
    Paul

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    • #3
      JeremyS
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 2014

      Can't wait to see more. The sneak peaks on your website are very interesting indeed!

      How are you going to handle CA's Roster requirements (chamber load indicator, mag disconnect, and microstamping)? In order to manufacture in the state, even if you are only selling out of state, you have to comply with all Roster regs, right?


      Originally posted by Secession Arms
      IThe 1911 market has never reached out to very high end connoisseurs who like expensive collectibles.
      Although not pushing the envelope of design like you are, http://cabotgun.com/ probably meets your description. Very high end with prices hitting $10k
      Escaped to WA

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      • #4
        bigbearbear
        Calguns Addict
        • Jun 2011
        • 5378

        Hey, this is in San Jose! Woot!! I have a arms manufacturer in my city!!!
        Definitely let me know when your product is ready.

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        • #5
          Cyc Wid It
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4485

          Interesting... but I would argue that the 1911 market has a pretty well established hierarchy of top end gunsmiths.
          WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19

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          • #6
            naeco81
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jun 2013
            • 1811

            Originally posted by Cyc Wid It
            Interesting... but I would argue that the 1911 market has a pretty well established hierarchy of top end gunsmiths.
            Yeah, I don't know where that assertion came from. High end 1911's are pretty much run of the mill; far more ubiquitous luxury than any other platform. I would drop that from your marketing collateral as it will make any collector question whether you really understand the market.

            All that aside, welcome! You are certainly adventurous and I hope it proves worthwhile.
            Originally posted by Mitch
            The architects of the assault weapon bans ... are simply trying to fight the Culture War. And we can't win, not in California anyway because you guys, the ones with the most to lose, refuse to do what you need to do to win the Culture Wars, which is to make Calguns and the gun rights community a truly big tent and stop driving people away simply because they are different from you.
            Crime rate per 100k people
            General population: 3,817
            Police officers: 108
            Legal CCW: 18

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            • #7
              onefortheroad
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 351

              I like the sneak peak. I'm looking forward to seeing some finished product. Good luck and thanks for standing up to df.

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              • #8
                itisagoodname
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Jan 2010
                • 1359

                Subscribed!
                tere hanges

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                • #9
                  nastyhabts26
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 2103

                  Looks like your hats and Tee shirts are aimed at the upper crust too.
                  I guess all the low hanging fruit has already been plucked from the tree.

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                  • #10
                    jm13690
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 766

                    Wow if a baseball cap is already out of my price range, do not even want to think about the gun itself.

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                    • #11
                      CasperSYTFU
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 758

                      That's an expensive t-shirt!
                      CLXXIV
                      In us we trust.

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                      • #12
                        IVC
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 17609

                        This is the beginning of a long journey and I'm glad you're taking the first steps. As in any business, enjoy the path and make sure you pay close attention to realities along the way, while striving for your goal.
                        sigpicNRA Benefactor Member

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                        • #13
                          smith and wesson
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 1877

                          Interesting design in the previews. Good luck.

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                          • #14
                            proraptor
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 2594

                            Nice
                            Nothin says hate like a .308

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                            • #15
                              josh250
                              Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 424

                              Nice. You have a vision, and you are taking steps to make it reality. I respect that. I wish you luck.

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