Rejected DROS :(

[Steve1968LS2]

Out of state used handguns are not "treated as NEW in California", they are just not a ppt. The prior ownership or lack thereof is moot.

Well, I was told they are treated that way in terms of the 1-in-30 rule.. so if you buy a used out of state gun it starts the 30-day clock.

Live and learn..

[Steve1968LS2]

$25 DROS and a $10 dealer fee I would assume. But on a direct buy from the FFL I guess he meant $25.

Yea.. thats what I meant..

Nope. You cost yourself the DROS fee by not knowing the law

Check your receipt, since it's a new gun, bought from the dealer, it might only be $25.

Pretty sure it was $35 total.. and it wasn't a new gun, which is why I thought it would be like any other PPT.

Don't recall saying it wasn't my fault.. then again, I think our laws in CA are almost designed to cause confusion.

[glock17_1986]

Hey guys I have a question about sales tax. If i purchase a pistol from a guy who lives in sacramento he has to ship it through his ffl to my ffl. Now does this still count as a PPT or do I have to pay taxes on it? Please help I need to get this figured out so I can get it moving.

[California44]

Ok, well never mind.. was just told that a private party transfer is ONLY in person and in the state.. all used guns from out of state are treated as NEW in California..

So our stupid, pointless, and convoluted gun laws just cost me $35. yeah! lol

YES. It must be FTF for it to be PPT.

[Speedpower]

Hey guys I have a question about sales tax. If i purchase a pistol from a guy who lives in sacramento he has to ship it through his ffl to my ffl. Now does this still count as a PPT or do I have to pay taxes on it? Please help I need to get this figured out so I can get it moving.

It will be considered a dealer transfer but don't have to add any tax since it's from the same state that you are residing at.

[glock17_1986]

It will be considered a dealer transfer but don't have to add any tax since it's from the same state that you are residing at.

You are sure about this? I just want to double and triple check because every one says ppt's are nice cause no tax. Thank you for answering my question.

[CK_32]

Ouch!

Sorry to hear that. I'm clean and still dread getting rejected.

I'd almost rather have a credit card denied than a DROS

[ke6guj]

Ok, well never mind.. was just told that a private party transfer is ONLY in person and in the state.. all used guns from out of state are treated as NEW in California..

when are people going to learn that NEW or USED does not matter. It depends on how it is DROSed.

all used guns from out of state are treated as NEW USED in California.. All used guns from inside of CA are treated as USED in CA. If a dealer has a bunch of LE-trade-in Glocks that are have been used that he is selling from inventory, they are legally considered USED handguns. When the dealer sells the handgun it is DROSed like any other other handgun is, and the 30-day rule applies, even though it is a USED handgun.

the 30-day rules applies to all handgun transfers, unless the buyer is 30-day exempt (LEO, etc) or the transfer is a roster-exempt transfer (like a CA-defined PPT). none of the exemptions rely on whether or not the handgun is USED.

[Speedpower]

You are sure about this? I just want to double and triple check because every one says ppt's are nice cause no tax. Thank you for answering my question.

Just make sure to tell your FFL that you are buying a used gun from a Private party but his FFL is doing the shipping.

[glock17_1986]

Okay thank you guys. I love this forum and the members rock!!!

[1911Luvr]

I had a DROS held up once. I called the number and found out an old ticket which had been paid and dismissed with traffic school was putting a hold against my CDL. Of course license renewal wasn't due for some time, so I had no idea there was a hold. I found out 3 days in so I had time to get a copy of my proof of traffic school completion and take it to a courthouse in time. My ten days finished without problem after that. The store told me that's the first time they saw a DROS held that did not end up having to be reDROSed.

[GW]

Ok, well never mind.. was just told that a private party transfer is ONLY in person and in the state.. all used guns from out of state are treated as NEW in California..

So our stupid, pointless, and convoluted gun laws just cost me $35. yeah! lol

I got burned this way a few years back.
Sucks

[jpx0123]

i have a question about this.. sorry for my ignorance on the law. if someone is coming in from out of state to do a FTF for a PPT is that ok?

[SouperMan]

i have a question about this.. sorry for my ignorance on the law. if someone is coming in from out of state to do a FTF for a PPT is that ok?

Both parties must be California residents for PPT. In case DROS fails, the firearm has to be returned to the owner who must be a California resident.

In your scenario, it might be a interstate FFL scenario and generally goes from person to FFL to FFL to you.

Edit:

Calguns Wiki:
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Buying_and_selling_firearms_in_California#Buying_f rom_a_Private_Party_-_PPT

[jpx0123]

Both parties must be California residents for PPT.

In your scenario, it might be a interstate FFL scenario.

thanks...