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[ASTMedic]

Short stroking the trigger is a huge deal and could cost you your life. For those of us who train and carry a firearm with a short, positive reset and also capture the trigger after each round, transitioning to a firearm with a mushy non distinct and long reset can cause short stroking.

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Never had that issue. On mine reset is clear

[SilverTauron]

Its my observation that manufacturers COULD sell competent triggers for new guns out of the box-they just choose not to, due to the general stupidity of people today and the sue happy nature of our society.

IMO, if you want good stock triggers in service grade guns you're buying a hammer fired piece.

[Bug Splat]

Short stroking the trigger is a huge deal and could cost you your life. For those of us who train and carry a firearm with a short, positive reset and also capture the trigger after each round, transitioning to a firearm with a mushy non distinct and long reset can cause short stroking.

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Thats my issue. I have trained to hold the trigger down and lift off until it resets then pull. Without the reset I have a hard time doing fire drills with the M&P. I find myself lifting WAY more off than needed because I don't want to short stroke it.

[rsmorgan]

Those of us who learned combat shooting using a DA revolver have a hard time with "release to reset" with the trigger of an automatic. Reset on a DA only happens if the trigger goes all the way back to the start of the stroke. Some people even use to advocate allowing the finger to slightly rise off the trigger to assure that the trigger was as far forward as it could go.

Not a lot of younger shooters know the joys of doing rapid fire then short-stroking a DA Colt! It often will lock-up the weapon; do it right and you'll even damage the gun, especially if you had a worked-on gun with a relatively light DA pull.

[Sam]

My Feb 2013 example had the horrible double/vague reset. It no longer has a double reset with the Apex parts but can't accept the Apex Reset Assist Mechanism to improve the tactile feel of the reset because the trigger housing block has been changed by S&W. Apex is developing a new design.

[wsmc27]

Short stroking the trigger is a huge deal and could cost you your life. For those of us who train and carry a firearm with a short, positive reset and also capture the trigger after each round, transitioning to a firearm with a mushy non distinct and long reset can cause short stroking.

Thats my issue. I have trained to hold the trigger down and lift off until it resets then pull. Without the reset I have a hard time doing fire drills with the M&P. I find myself lifting WAY more off than needed because I don't want to short stroke it.

Agreed with these gentlemen.

We rented a M&P9 a couple months back, enjoyed the "feel" of the gun, shot it fine, disliked the trigger. Quite vague, mushy as others have mentioned in a variety of threads on CG. Have no idea how old this particular example was, but would be pleased to hear of improved stock triggers in them in 2013. Nice pistol other then that trigger in the one we tried.

[inrev`]

reset is better, but not fantastic. On the stock polymer trigger it is pretty noticeable with a weird bounce back. I installed an apex aek trigger and it kind of smoothed it out while making the reset a little less tactile (I am assuming due to weight of the aluminum trigger). Mine is 01/2013