Walther P99 vs Glock17

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Has anyone shot both of these handguns? - if so do you have any feed back on either of them - i am intrested in buying one.

[Mr.RoDiN]

I havn't shot the P99 but I do have a glock 17 and i am in love with it. I have read plenty of mixed reviews about the walther. I have heard from some sources it is very accurate and comfortable. I have heard from other that it breaks easily. I have a usp expert .45 and a p7m8. I would pick the glock 17 when the SHTF any day.

[blkA4alb]

I've shot both and vastly prefer the P99, i guess im biased though because i can't stand the glock triggers. the trigger "safety" bugs the crap out of me. The P99 is awesome and besides, james bond used it . my buddy owns a P99 and ive put about 200 rounds through it without a jam, ill ask him in more detail about it though.

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Thanks guys

[knight_dive]

xd

Have you considered the Springfield XD?

I have an XD-9 with several thousand rounds through it without one hiccup except for a bad round with the bullet seated off center. Glocks are very reliable and accurate enough, but personally I can't stand the grips. The XD has the same grip angle as a 1911 frame, so to me it just points a lot more naturally. So far the XD seems to be just as reliable and at least as accurate. Plus if you buy an XD-40 or .357 Sig, you can get a 9mm drop in barrel, and 9mm even feed out of the same mags.

just a suggestion.

[xenophobe]

P99 is leaps and bounds more avanced than a glock.

While they may appear very similar in some ways...

The P99 has a decocker, a live striker indicator, a live round indicator, has interchangable backstraps to adjust to your hand size, and comes with several different front sights, so after you find the ammo you like, you can adjust the POA.

There are several different triggers that you can get with the Walthers, the standard P99 is a three position single/double (double fully extended, double after reset, and single action) , while the QA and the Glock are both Safe Action types.

[BigAL]

P99 is leaps and bounds more avanced than a glock.

While they may appear very similar in some ways...

The P99 has a decocker, a live striker indicator, a live round indicator, has interchangable backstraps to adjust to your hand size, and comes with several different front sights, so after you find the ammo you like, you can adjust the POA.

There are several different triggers that you can get with the Walthers, the standard P99 is a three position single/double (double fully extended, double after reset, and single action) , while the QA and the Glock are both Safe Action types.

You may see that as "more advanced" but I see it as mostly more crap that I don't need that will add to the complexity of the gun so there is that much more to go wrong. YMMV.

[m1371]

P99 is leaps and bounds more avanced than a glock.

While they may appear very similar in some ways...

The P99 has a decocker, a live striker indicator, a live round indicator, has interchangable backstraps to adjust to your hand size, and comes with several different front sights, so after you find the ammo you like, you can adjust the POA.

There are several different triggers that you can get with the Walthers, the standard P99 is a three position single/double (double fully extended, double after reset, and single action) , while the QA and the Glock are both Safe Action types.

Added complexity does not equate to being "leaps and bounds more advanced", IMO.

I generally ccw while working stateside, and my handgun of choice is a Glock. It's "Barney-style" simple without extra bells and whistles. I've tried the p99 along with numerous other handguns and I continually come back to the Glock.

This is just my .02 worth on the subject.

Bottom line though, is that it is the shooter's preference. Some people dislike Glocks for various reasons..... the feel of the trigger pull, the "safe-action" style safety/trigger, uncomfortable grip, poor pointability..... These are some of the primary dislikes I've heard voiced over the years. Funny thing is, I've heard at least three of the previous four examples applied to other handguns also.

My answer to the original poster (Esc) would be to head out to a range and shoot a few hundred rounds through both before you make a decision to buy. You might save a few bucks in the long run.

[Mr. Ed]

I have both the P99 and a Glock. The P99 is very very accurrate. I can hit 10-ring on the target at over 20 yards out. It has the most comfortable grip I've ever held on a gun. It looks cool too!! The coolness factor of the gun also put the gun on the big screen. A lot of movies are using the P99 as their feature gun.

[BamBam-31]

Ditto BigAL and m1371.

[xenophobe]

For one, I can inspect if the firearm is in battery or loaded with both visual and tactile confirmation. I do not need to move the slide back to expose the chamber. It has a decocker, so I may keep it chambered, with the striker out of battery. Try that with a Glock.

It also has very lo-pro adjustable sights... althought I have replaced mine with tritium sights. I also like the small backstrap on my P99. It fits my hand better than a G17 and it is more of a natural point for me.

And for the negative comments, I never said anything bad about the Glock. It's a simple, bare bones, utilitarian, semi-automatic that is as close to a revolver in simplicity as you will get. It's a great gun. I would surely depend on my life without second thought with one.

I prefer having a decocker, to be able to feel if the chamber is loaded as well being able to tell if the striker is engaged.

Also, the P99 is also a better fit in womens hands. One of the keys to good shooting is having a handgun that not just fits in your hand, but one that you can relax with and feels comfortable. Out of ALL of the polymer semi-autos out there, I like the P99 the best, with the HK 2000 a close second. I absolutely hate the original USP's square and uncomfortable grip (which they've tamed a bit), and Glocks are just ok in my hands.

EDIT: Yes, and the Glock is really accurate, but I'm more accurate with my P99, which also is more comfortable feeling for me to shoot. Mine has had probably over 5000 rounds, not a single hiccup, not a single FTF or FTE, not a single stovepipe, shooting everything from random mix bulk crap target ammo from an armored car company to many different +P loads. Over this time the trigger has smoothed out nicely, and is absolutely a joy to shoot. It is my main go-to handgun, and I have owned a number of handguns, but since the P99 came out, the P220 isn't what it used to be.... That's personal preference though.

Would that be the Anti-Stress?

The three distinct positions are:

1) trigger fully foward in double action mode
2) trigger fully forward in single action mode
3) trigger in single action mode after firing a shot or moving the trigger rearwards after engaging the striker...

It sounds a little awkward, but after you get used to it, it's second nature... On a side note, I do not like the P99QA or P990 versions of the trigger. Try one before you buy it.

[m1371]

I have both the P99 and a Glock. The P99 is very very accurrate. I can hit 10-ring on the target at over 20 yards out. It has the most comfortable grip I've ever held on a gun. It looks cool too!! The coolness factor of the gun also put the gun on the big screen. A lot of movies are using the P99 as their feature gun.

And that folks, is the ONLY reason to buy any handgun. COOL FACTOR.

[m1371]

For one, I can inspect if the firearm is in battery or loaded with both visual and tactile confirmation. I do not need to move the slide back to expose the chamber. It has a decocker, so I may keep it chambered, with the striker out of battery. Try that with a Glock.

It also has very lo-pro adjustable sights... althought I have replaced mine with tritium sights. I also like the small backstrap on my P99. It fits my hand better than a G17 and it is more of a natural point for me.

And for the negative comments, I never said anything bad about the Glock. It's a simple, bare bones, utilitarian, semi-automatic that is as close to a revolver in simplicity as you will get. It's a great gun. I would surely depend on my life without second thought with one.

I prefer having a decocker, to be able to feel if the chamber is loaded as well being able to tell if the striker is engaged.

Also, the P99 is also a better fit in womens hands. One of the keys to good shooting is having a handgun that not just fits in your hand, but one that you can relax with and feels comfortable. Out of ALL of the polymer semi-autos out there, I like the P99 the best, with the HK 2000 a close second. I absolutely hate the original USP's square and uncomfortable grip (which they've tamed a bit), and Glocks are just ok in my hands.

EDIT: Yes, and the Glock is really accurate, but I'm more accurate with my P99, which also is more comfortable feeling for me to shoot. Mine has had probably over 5000 rounds, not a single hiccup, not a single FTF or FTE, not a single stovepipe, shooting everything from random mix bulk crap target ammo from an armored car company to many different +P loads. Over this time the trigger has smoothed out nicely, and is absolutely a joy to shoot. It is my main go-to handgun, and I have owned a number of handguns, but since the P99 came out, the P220 isn't what it used to be.... That's personal preference though.



The three distinct positions are:

1) trigger fully foward in double action mode
2) trigger fully forward in single action mode
3) trigger in single action mode after firing a shot or moving the trigger rearwards after engaging the striker...

It sounds a little awkward, but after you get used to it, it's second nature... On a side note, I do not like the P99QA or P990 versions of the trigger. Try one before you buy it.

^ This whole post sounds real close to being a sales pitch rather than a personal opinion. Probably just me and the way I'm reading it.

[Apeman88]

I've got both the P99 and the glock... P99 over the glock hands down. Even without the bells and whistles... the p99 is more solidly built, more accurate. I've put over 3000 rounds in mine and no jams and no problems thus far.

Just my $0.02cent.

Ken

[xenophobe]

lol... I work at a gun store, and yeah, that's pretty much my sales pitch... However, I can't sell a product like that, that I'm not completely in love with. You can ask anyone that knows me about my P99. lol. I've needed the P99 ever since the first time I shot one in 99. I bought my highcaps for it before I even owned the pistol cause they were gonna get banned, I figured the mags were more important... lol.

So I've owned my P99 for 6+ years. In the past 15+ years I've owned Sigs, Glocks, HKs, Colts, etc... all of them have been sold or traded except for my P99. My previous #1 handgun was a P220. I also really like the Styer M series, and the HK 2000 V3. I can't wait to try a HK 3000.