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  • FourT6and2
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1928

    FFLs Won't Ship

    Every time I find a gun I like that's not a Cali model from a shop out-of-state, they always decline to sell to me because I'm in California, even when I tell 'em they can ship it to another FFL who will do a SSE. They all say the same thing, that it's either illegal or that they don't want to invite trouble. And this is from reputable shops who come highly recommended.
  • #2
    JackRydden224
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2011
    • 7226

    Originally posted by FourT6and2
    Every time I find a gun I like that's not a Cali model from a shop out-of-state, they always decline to sell to me because I'm in California, even when I tell 'em they can ship it to another FFL who will do a SSE. They all say the same thing, that it's either illegal or that they don't want to invite trouble. And this is from reputable shops who come highly recommended.
    That's California's grand scheme, to make it difficult for Californians to get their hands on firearms. Your best bet is to find a CA friendly out of state FFL or a middleman. In the logical world I would sue CA for interfering with freedom of commerce but in this liberal state that's probably not going to fly.

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    • #3
      FourT6and2
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1928

      Originally posted by JackRydden224
      That's California's grand scheme, to make it difficult for Californians to get their hands on firearms. Your best bet is to find a CA friendly out of state FFL or a middleman. In the logical world I would sue CA for interfering with freedom of commerce but in this liberal state that's probably not going to fly.
      No, that's the point. These shops won't even ship to a "middleman" FFL that is NOT in CA. As soon as you say "California," they freak. For example, a shop in Mississippi has a gun I want. They won't even ship it to a shop in Oregon for an SSE if they know it will eventually find its way to California.

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      • #4
        morrcarr67
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2010
        • 14990

        Don't tell them anything.

        Call Ryan and tell him what you want, where it's at, pay HIM so HE can order it, do the SSE and ship it to your LGS for transfer.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          FourT6and2
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1928

          Originally posted by morrcarr67
          Don't tell them anything.

          Call Ryan and tell him what you want, where it's at, pay HIM so HE can order it, do the SSE and ship it to your LGS for transfer.
          Oh snap, didn't realize he would do that. The situation is compounded, though, by the fact that the gun I want is on order. It's not in-stock, physically. So I'd have to put a deposit down and wait wait wait.
          Last edited by FourT6and2; 03-29-2013, 10:37 AM.

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          • #6
            Ronin2
            Banned
            • Jan 2011
            • 5563

            I suggest you simply watch for the gun you want here in California in the used market and then just PAY WHAT IS NEEDED to get it. Otherwise... MOVING is your only other option.

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            • #7
              littlejake
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 2168

              Originally posted by JackRydden224
              That's California's grand scheme, to make it difficult for Californians to get their hands on firearms. Your best bet is to find a CA friendly out of state FFL or a middleman. In the logical world I would sue CA for interfering with freedom of commerce but in this liberal state that's probably not going to fly.
              That's why you sue in Federal Court under the 10th Amendment interstate commerce clause.

              Of course that means the 9th circus -- the most overturned circuit court in the US.
              Life Member NRA and 2A Foundation.
              My posts are my own opinions and do not reflect those of any organization I am a member of.
              Nothing I post should be construed as legal advice; if you need legal advice, see a lawyer.

              "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
              William Pitt (1759-1806)

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              • #8
                sunaj
                Banned
                • Mar 2013
                • 329

                If it's legal then Gunbroker ought to have a policy they can't exclude ca sales,
                we all know it is a bitc* but this is ridiculous, sellers taking it out on cal gunners, who stand at the FRONT LINE of the gun control battle

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                • #9
                  cire raeb
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1049

                  Problem is that are a lots misinformed people on Kalifornia gun laws, before making a bid via GunBroker.com, shoot them the question and educate them.

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                  • #10
                    BigAinCA
                    Junior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 53

                    Originally posted by morrcarr67
                    Don't tell them anything.

                    Call Ryan and tell him what you want, where it's at, pay HIM so HE can order it, do the SSE and ship it to your LGS for transfer.
                    What is his username here is case I ever need his services?

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