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  • #31
    zfields
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2010
    • 13658

    Originally posted by missiontrails
    Both are obviously great, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about them. One other thing I failed to mention in the "one vs the other" part... the CZ has a small ejection port opening, which could make certain types of malfunctions more of a pain to work around quickly. Obviously keep both guns, but in a "one or the other" convo.... the Sig is undeniably a better overall design for versatility and "practical" use, and is higher quality machined and finished product. Is the SP-01 more "mechanically" accurate than the P226? I don't know. I do know that Gun Week found the 92fS to be more accurate from the bench than the 75B
    That got me curious, decided to measure the two guns I carry.

    SP01 measures .603
    Taurus pt111 pro measures .834

    Curious to get my hands on one of the modernized CZ's (p07/p09) and see what the have changed as far as the opening size, if anything.
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    • #32
      missiontrails
      Calguns Addict
      • Nov 2008
      • 7843

      Originally posted by zfields
      That got me curious, decided to measure the two guns I carry.

      SP01 measures .603
      Taurus pt111 pro measures .834

      Curious to get my hands on one of the modernized CZ's (p07/p09) and see what the have changed as far as the opening size, if anything.
      It's not so much the length, it's more the open top design of the Sig, Beretta, HK and the likes... vs the open only on the right design like the CZ and 1911's.

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      • #33
        zfields
        CGN Contributor
        • Aug 2010
        • 13658

        Originally posted by missiontrails
        It's not so much the length, it's more the open top design of the Sig, Beretta, HK and the likes... vs the open only on the right design like the CZ and 1911's.
        I didn't measure length, I measured opening width. And I agree that a larger top side would be more beneficial in pretty much any situation with a malfunction.
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        • #34
          missiontrails
          Calguns Addict
          • Nov 2008
          • 7843

          Originally posted by zfields
          I didn't measure length, I measured opening width. And I agree that a larger top side would be more beneficial in pretty much any situation with a malfunction.
          Oh gotcha..

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          • #35
            Lead Waster
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            • Sep 2010
            • 16650

            What's this "get proficient in one/each platform crap?".

            The goal is to learn shooting skills that apply to any platform. If you only have one "platform" how do you know if you are learning good shooting skills, or just working around the idiosyncrasies of a particular gun?

            What you SHOULD do is all more guns of varying platforms and caliber.

            .45 1911, glock, S&W revolver, hi point (why not!) DA/SA, SAO, DAO. .22 of various flavours.

            My 2 cents. Forget this "proficiency in a single platform" stuff! (OR you know, do what you want, I'm just being snooty)
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            • #36
              zfields
              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2010
              • 13658

              Originally posted by Lead Waster
              What's this "get proficient in one/each platform crap?".

              The goal is to learn shooting skills that apply to any platform. If you only have one "platform" how do you know if you are learning good shooting skills, or just working around the idiosyncrasies of a particular gun?

              What you SHOULD do is all more guns of varying platforms and caliber.

              .45 1911, glock, S&W revolver, hi point (why not!) DA/SA, SAO, DAO. .22 of various flavours.

              My 2 cents. Forget this "proficiency in a single platform" stuff! (OR you know, do what you want, I'm just being snooty)
              +1.

              Almost as bad as the "stance" argument.
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              • #37
                missiontrails
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 7843

                Originally posted by Lead Waster
                What's this "get proficient in one/each platform crap?".

                The goal is to learn shooting skills that apply to any platform. If you only have one "platform" how do you know if you are learning good shooting skills, or just working around the idiosyncrasies of a particular gun?

                What you SHOULD do is all more guns of varying platforms and caliber.

                .45 1911, glock, S&W revolver, hi point (why not!) DA/SA, SAO, DAO. .22 of various flavours.

                My 2 cents. Forget this "proficiency in a single platform" stuff! (OR you know, do what you want, I'm just being snooty)
                Ha ha....I've been questioning that philosophy also....... training courses don't teach you how to shoot your particular gun, they teach you how to shoot.

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                • #38
                  Striker
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 750

                  Originally posted by hairtumor
                  I recently acquired a German Sig 226 in 9mm and a CZ SP-01. They are both a pleasure to shoot. My dilemma is do I keep both and become proficient on each platform or do I sell the Sig and get a CZ P01 and have the same weapon in full size and compact?
                  Shoot some rounds through both and see if you like both. If you do, keep them. Pretty simple and no one else can answer the question for you.


                  Originally posted by Lead Waster
                  What's this "get proficient in one/each platform crap?".

                  The goal is to learn shooting skills that apply to any platform. If you only have one "platform" how do you know if you are learning good shooting skills, or just working around the idiosyncrasies of a particular gun?

                  What you SHOULD do is all more guns of varying platforms and caliber.

                  .45 1911, glock, S&W revolver, hi point (why not!) DA/SA, SAO, DAO. .22 of various flavours.

                  My 2 cents. Forget this "proficiency in a single platform" stuff! (OR you know, do what you want, I'm just being snooty)
                  LOL. Hilarious.

                  The running mindset among some the past few years is get as proficient as possible with one type of gun. Not just platform, but brand, caliber etc. Comes from the "Beware the man with one gun" school of thought. They're right in the way that you'll run that system better than someone who runs multiple guns. Familiarity etc. But I've always seen it the way Hilton Yam sees it in that I'd prefer to be 80%-90% proficient/comfortable with multiple guns as opposed to 100% with one gun. And I still maintain that if you run bolt rifles, ARs, AKs, shotguns etc in addition to your pistol, you're not running a true one gun system.

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                  • #39
                    Federalist
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 553

                    I have a P226 and a 75B (not the cool SP01). I love both. If you can afford to, I recommend you keep both. Both are good investments. It will take you a while to determine with which you are more proficient. Shoot both, learn both, and figure it out after several months. They are very similar such that the transition back and forth is pretty smooth.
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                    • #40
                      oddjob
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2397

                      I own both. I use the CZ SP-01 for USPSA shooting. Bore axis, ergonomics and accuracy is better with the CZ for me. The CZ and the Sig are both dead nuts reliable. For USPSA and self defense I think both are accurate enough. Its just the CZ is more accurate (at least mine). Both have plenty of accessories, but I gotta give the holster nod to the Sig (mine is the non-railed 226 9mm).

                      Bottom line; I would keep both. I don't know what you intend to do with them (competition, plink, self defense & etc), but you can't go wrong by keeping both. My favorite 9mm is a 1911, but thats another story!

                      By the way shoot both guns on a plate rack with a timer multiple times. See which gun is faster for you. That should give you a good indication.
                      Last edited by oddjob; 03-29-2013, 6:31 PM.

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                      • #41
                        hairtumor
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 750

                        Originally posted by Lead Waster
                        What's this "get proficient in one/each platform crap?".

                        The goal is to learn shooting skills that apply to any platform. If you only have one "platform" how do you know if you are learning good shooting skills, or just working around the idiosyncrasies of a particular gun?

                        What you SHOULD do is all more guns of varying platforms and caliber.

                        .45 1911, glock, S&W revolver, hi point (why not!) DA/SA, SAO, DAO. .22 of various flavours.

                        My 2 cents. Forget this "proficiency in a single platform" stuff! (OR you know, do what you want, I'm just being snooty)
                        thats a good point.

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                        • #42
                          Bug Splat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 6561

                          I can't stand Sigs. They just feel so odd to me. The bore is super high and the slide release is where a safety should be. I can never get a proper thumbs forward high grip with a sig. It just was not designed for my style of shooting.

                          I like to grip high and have my sights as low as possible. I would pick a CZ vs sig 100 times over. If you don't need the rail consider the CZ PCR, thats what I bought. Same features as the P01 but without the bulky rail.

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                          • #43
                            limitdown
                            Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 466

                            SP01 without a second thought.
                            Much better trigger. Much easier to tune.
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                            • #44
                              missiontrails
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7843

                              Originally posted by limitdown
                              SP01 without a second thought.
                              Much better trigger. Much easier to tune.
                              That trigger starts out gritty doesn't it? When you say "easy to tune", that's not a DIY job is it? Always thought people sent their CZ's places for tuning. Does the SP-01 come out of the box with a smoother trigger than the 75B?

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                              • #45
                                uhlan1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 6217

                                I have both. wouldn't consider selling either one.
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