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  • Paul_R
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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    • Jan 2011
    • 2847

    Non roster handgun PPT question

    Can I as a California resident buy a non roster handgun from another California resident and have it shipped to my FFL? I'm in norcal, he's ih socal for example. Thanks.
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    Paperchasin
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    • Oct 2010
    • 6407

    If you have to ship it, then Roster applies. So no, you cannot have it shipped to you. Must meet in person, face to face.
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    • #3
      Oceanbob
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      • Jun 2010
      • 12720

      Originally posted by Paul_R
      Can I as a California resident buy a non roster handgun from another California resident and have it shipped to my FFL? I'm in norcal, he's ih socal for example. Thanks.
      One possibility is to ship the weapon to an FFL that can SSE it.. So you would have to find an FFL that can do Single Shot Exemptions on the model and be willing to accept it as such.

      Good luck.
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      • #4
        morrcarr67
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        • Jul 2010
        • 15044

        Originally posted by Paperchasin
        If you have to ship it, then Roster applies. So no, you cannot have it shipped to you. Must meet in person, face to face.
        Paper is correct.

        So that means that the gun either needs to be on the roster or roster exempt. If you yourself are roster exempt then it doesn't matter.

        I guessing from your question that you are not roster exempt.

        You could ask the seller to convert it to a roster exempt handgun before shipping or you could ask your LGS if they can convert it to a roster exempt handgun when they receive it.
        Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

        Originally posted by Erion929

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        • #5
          Paul_R
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2011
          • 2847

          FWIW, it's a single action revolver. Does that make it a single shot?
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          • #6
            SMR510
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • Nov 2008
            • 883

            Originally posted by Paul_R
            FWIW, it's a single action revolver. Does that make it a single shot?
            If it meets these requirements then you are GTG.

            12133. (a) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a
            single-action revolver that has at least a 5-cartridge capacity
            with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets
            any of the following specifications:
            (1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or
            relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of
            Federal Regulations.
            (2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
            least 71/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and
            barrel are assembled.
            (3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at
            least 71/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and
            barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for
            importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions
            of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18
            of the United States Code.

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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              1. Since the firearm is being shipped, it is not a PPT.
              2. If the firearm is a handgun, then it needs to be on the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale or be exempt from it.
              3. Dimensionally compliant single-action revolvers are exempt. [PC 32100(a)]

              So, in your scenario...
              You can purchase the single-action revolver from SoCal and have it shipped to NorCal.
              Because the single-action revolver you are buying qualifies for the single-action revolver exemption, a CA FFL dealer can transfer it to you.
              But, because the firearm is being shipped, the CA FFL dealer can legally charge any amount of money to facilitate the transfer.



              Penal Code 32100
              (a) Article 4 (commencing with Section 31900) and Article 5 (commencing with Section 32000) shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a five-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications:
              (1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
              (2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled.
              (3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-half inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code.
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