Pls Help with Transfer Nonsense

[wahzoo]

My Second Post on the same topic

I have a deal with a Dallas Tx resident to purchase an H&K P7M8 (Crazy Money!), which is on the Kalifornia DOJ approved firearm list. My FFL guy says gun must be shipped from Tx FFL, no problem right?

Seller calls me and says he spoke with 5 gun dealers in his area and none will handle the transfer One dealer hung up on him when her heard Kalifronia...

WTF - Try to do things the right way and this BS happens

I'm open to suggestions, there must be another was to skin this cat

Billy

[461]

I'd take a look on gunbroker.com or auctionarms.com and do an FFL lookup for the sellers area. If you find some listings, give them a call and see if they'll do it, if so then tell the seller which one to go to.

Many dealers don't want to deal with California and you really can't blame them with all the screwy stuff here.

Another option would be to find another local dealer here that doesn't require the gun to be shipped through an FFL as it isn't required.

[G17GUY]

Call Chris at lanworldinc.com and he will take care of ya.

[hawk1]

Post what city you are in. I'm sure you'll get replies letting you know which dealer to use.

[wahzoo]

Post what city you are in. I'm sure you'll get replies letting you know which dealer to use.

This would be the best solution...

I'm in Los Angeles and would travel practically anywhere in So. Cal... to make this work...

If someone knows of an FFL who would not require Tx FFL, pls post the info...

The seller prefers to sale go this route too...

Thanks!
Billy

[hawk1]

Call Chris at Bright Spot Pawn
951-360-1796

Be sure and ask him what the seller needs to include with the weapon when he sends it. Such as a copy of his drivers license or whatever.

[hill billy]

pm sent

[GlockOn]

Technically, and to be 100% legal he should ship the gun through an FFL, but there are times when uninformed people, ship the gun themselves. In this case the FFL just records it in the book under the senders name. Your FFL can't help it if the guy in Texas doesn't ship through an FFL, it's not like your FFL will send it back. I'm not making a suggestion, but rather telling you what sometimes happens.

[ke6guj]

Technically, and to be 100% legal he should ship the gun through an FFL, but there are times when uninformed people, ship the gun themselves. In this case the FFL just records it in the book under the senders name. Your FFL can't help it if the guy in Texas doesn't ship through an FFL, it's not like your FFL will send it back. I'm not making a suggestion, but rather telling you what sometimes happens.

A non-licensee can normally ship a firearm directly to an FFL without having to use an FFL to do the shipping. Some FFL's will only accept shipments from FFL's, but that is not law.

There are sometimes that CA rules may require an FFL to do the shipping, such as a shipping a registered AW out-of-state for repair or sale.

(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier? [Back]


A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[GlockOn]

A non-licensee can normally ship a firearm directly to an FFL without having to use an FFL to do the shipping. Some FFL's will only accept shipments from FFL's, but that is not law.

There are sometimes that CA rules may require an FFL to do the shipping, such as a shipping a registered AW out-of-state for repair or sale.

You know what, come to think of it, you're probably right. It will be impossible to ship it though if he tells the shipper what it is. USPS, UPS, and FedEx want to get the gun from an FFL. He needs to send it as "sporting goods" and he should ship it overnight and insured.

[aplinker]

You know what, come to think of it, you're probably right. It will be impossible to ship it though if he tells the shipper what it is. USPS, UPS, and FedEx want to get the gun from an FFL. He needs to send it as "sporting goods" and he should ship it overnight and insured.

It would be best if you just didn't assume when you have no experience.

I've shipped guns, both long guns and handguns. They're perfectly willing and accustomed to it.

You will need to ship handguns via common courier (UPS or Fedex). I've never used Fedex, only UPS. For UPS you need to go to the UPS counter - you can't use a UPS store, etc. Handguns ship overnight.

It does NOT need to be shipped by an FFL. The seller will need to have a copy of the FFL of the receiving dealer and generally their driver's license. Your receiving FFL will fax that to the shipper.

Good luck. It shouldn't be this tough. Many, many people do this frequently.

Metroshot, Fort Courage Armory, Mad Ox Firearms, Bright Spot Pawn... all will accept. Call them to check their fees.

[wahzoo]

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Ok,

Thanks for all the great responses and info... The deal is in the works and moving forward

It is only moving forward because of the knowledge of people on this site...

Thanks!
Billy

[hawk1]

Ok,

Thanks for all the great responses and info... The deal is in the works and moving forward

It is only moving forward because of the knowledge of people on this site...

Thanks!
Billy

Billy who did you end up using for the transfer?

[-hanko]

Technically, and to be 100% legal he should ship the gun through an FFL, but there are times when uninformed people, ship the gun themselves. In this case the FFL just records it in the book under the senders name. Your FFL can't help it if the guy in Texas doesn't ship through an FFL, it's not like your FFL will send it back. I'm not making a suggestion, but rather telling you what sometimes happens.

Wrong.

To be "100% legal" it has to be shipped TO a licensee...FROM a licensee is an option, not a requirement. The receiving ffl may require that the gun ships from a licensee, but that is NOT the law; that's the receiving ffl thinking he might just cover his butt a little more. It's not uncommon that the receiving ffl request a copy of the shipper's DL, that's also not a requirement.

-hanko

[wahzoo]

FFL

Billy who did you end up using for the transfer?

Hawk,

I went with Ammo Bro's in Cerritos... They are not to far from where I live...

Billy