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  • norcrawler
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 52

    80% ar build question

    just ran across this post from 2008. just wondering if anyone can confirm this is true.

    Originally posted by AJAX22
    Having a serial number and make/model/manufacturer/city/state markings are what keep you from having to spend 20K in legal fees to prove that you don't have a 'Zip Gun' or didn't 'obliterate' a comercially manufactured firearms markings.

    CYA on this
    i was planning on getting it engraved (tomorrow possibly) and was just going to do a serial (first, middle and last initial. followed by the last 4 of my social) thats just what ive seen and seems like a pretty full proof way to prove its yours incase of any leo encounters.. would it be highly advisable to put make/model/man./city and state on there aswell?
  • #2
    darksands
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 710

    Zip gun only applies to building a gun that is not a clone of an existing gun. Look up the legal definition of a zip gun.

    Only reason you would want a serial number is if you are planning to sell it in the future.
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    • #3
      norcrawler
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 52

      couldnt i run into some issues with a LEO thats having a bad day? seems to likely to happen imo

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        IMO...
        If are going to engrave it with a serial number, do it so that it conforms with Federal laws/regulations.

        So, the engravings need to have a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch and would need to include:
        1. Manufacturer's name
        2. City & State the firearm was manufactured in
        3. Firearm's model
        4. Firearm's caliber
        5. Firearm's serial number
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        • #5
          morrcarr67
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2010
          • 15035

          Originally posted by norcrawler
          couldnt i run into some issues with a LEO thats having a bad day? seems to likely to happen imo
          You could have a problem with them for spitting on the floor.

          The law doesn't require you to put on a serial number.

          Would I do it? Yes.

          If you're gonna do it follow Quiet's instructions.

          Originally posted by Quiet
          IMO...
          If are going to engrave it with a serial number, do it so that it conforms with Federal laws/regulations.

          So, the engravings need to have a minimum depth of .003 inch and in a print size no smaller than 1/16 inch and would need to include:
          1. Manufacturer's name
          2. City & State the firearm was manufactured in
          3. Firearm's model
          4. Firearm's caliber
          5. Firearm's serial number
          Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

          Originally posted by Erion929

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