Micro Uzi Pistol

[aplinker]

I don't see any purpose in having that except for showing off my Glock 19 is lighter, easer to shoot, easier to get parts for, and I am pretty sure they make big Glock magazines. So they are out there, but can you buy one new? Or are they that rare (compared to regular UZI's)

UZIs are from the B.T.E. - Before Tupperware Era. Keep in mind they were made for a very different purpose than we'd be using them (subs, folding stock, FA). They're old-school dignitary protection weapons.

[Waingro]

Dude, this is too funny... you see that edit on my post? That was because it had, "Paging AJAX22, please report to the green Starbucks courtesy phone."

I think I'll be on the path for this now. It's so... totally... legal...

It might be easier to do the single-shot method, no?

I think this is the most risky of everything I have seen discussed here. Building your own Micro-UZI pistol with all 'evil features' or making it single shot and getting it into the state that way then converting it back (not even sure how that is done or if possible) - but no matter what, I am pretty confident given a long enough period of time, you will be arrested.

[Waingro]

UZIs are from the P.T. - pre-Tupperware. Keep in mind they were made for a very different purpose than we'd be using them (subs, folding stock, FA). They're old-school dignitary protection weapons.

Oh yeah, I got ya there, I bet they are awesome in Fully Automatic mode. But what is the point if you can't have a stock to rest it upon your shoulder and in semi auto? Just for the collectible of having one? Isn't there a few people with real big UZI's here? Why not just do that? From what I understand that would be more accurate and the bullet would go faster due to the longer barrel.

[aplinker]

I think this is the most risky of everything I have seen discussed here. Building your own Micro-UZI pistol with all 'evil features' or making it single shot and getting it into the state that way then converting it back (not even sure how that is done or if possible) - but no matter what, I am pretty confident given a long enough period of time, you will be arrested.

How funny... you're completely clueless, I see.

I would like you to point out to me a single feature of a micro-uzi pistol that flies in the face of the AW penal code. For your incriminatory pleasure I'll even save you the effort of looking up the code:

(4) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
(B) A second handgrip.
(C) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
(D) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(5) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

Now, go to town ese.

As to why? Wow... there's only ever one answer to that... Why not? Oh and I already have a full-size Uzi. Now maybe I just need to conclude my Uzi trifecta?

[AJAX22]

Heh, yeah I missed the edit...

but your right it is my kind of project.

A impractical 9mm that I really dont need but want to own just because 'the man' doesn't like that I can do so legally

It might be easier... Once I get ahold of a semi auto uzi lower I can modify it so that it will turn ANY uzi type pistol into a single shot and we can just do one gun every 10 days on the same lower

I've got an FFL that's game for it.

The only problem is that the micro uzi has a sub 6 inch barrel, so we'd have to whip something up for it to bring it out past 6 inches.

The main appeal of doing an 80% build is:

#1 can leave it unregistered if you want to

#2 you can build it 100$ or so worth of parts at a time and spread the costs out... not a huge issue, but if you want more people to get into it, then its a consideration.

#3 No waiting on 3rd party vendors to assemble the pistol into the proper configuration...

[AJAX22]

I think a micro uzi would fill a niche in my collection somewhere between here....



and here.....



Without going to the extremes of....



(NOTE, ALL FIREARMS ARE CONFIGURED IN 100% LEGAL MANNERS, Homebuilt receivers for pistols, pinned 10 round mag on the AK pistol etc.)

[aplinker]

I'm in complete agreement on all counts.

I'd much prefer to build it, but the problem is receiver plans or flats. It's not clear to me it's straight forward. It doesn't look extremely complicated, but it's no AK.

PS - you need to DuraCoat your MAC clone. I'd pay to have it gold painted. Is there even a DuraCoat true gold?

PPS - I guess we're going away to prison for a while

Heh, yeah I missed the edit...

but your right it is my kind of project.

A impractical 9mm that I really dont need but want to own just because 'the man' doesn't like that I can do so legally

It might be easier... Once I get ahold of a semi auto uzi lower I can modify it so that it will turn ANY uzi type pistol into a single shot and we can just do one gun every 10 days on the same lower

I've got an FFL that's game for it.

The only problem is that the micro uzi has a sub 6 inch barrel, so we'd have to whip something up for it to bring it out past 6 inches.

The main appeal of doing an 80% build is:

#1 can leave it unregistered if you want to

#2 you can build it 100$ or so worth of parts at a time and spread the costs out... not a huge issue, but if you want more people to get into it, then its a consideration.

#3 No waiting on 3rd party vendors to assemble the pistol into the proper configuration...

[AJAX22]

Its getting properly parkerized at FEDUP's next build party, along with a few other projects

I believe they make a full sized uzi pistol receiver 80%, which can easily be cut down and re-welded to micro uzi size (all FA micro uzi's are made from cut down full sized uzi's anyway, so doing a semi should be easy)

I've seen some neat CNC made uzi 80%'s, but they were around $250 so I didn't buy them at the time.

Kentucky imports had 80% uzi receivers for $20 each for a while, but they haven't been available for a long long time.

If we lived in a free state we could get 100% uzi receivers for around $60 all day long and do custom builds on them, but CA's drop safety test put the nix on that plan (unless you know some LEO's who want to bring in a dozen or so of them that later decide they don't want them)

I'm in complete agreement on all counts.

I'd much prefer to build it, but the problem is receiver plans or flats. It's not clear to me it's straight forward. It doesn't look extremely complicated, but it's no AK.

PS - you need to DuraCoat your MAC clone. I'd pay to have it gold painted. Is there even a DuraCoat true gold?

[Waingro]

How funny... you're completely clueless, I see.

I would like you to point out to me a single feature of a micro-uzi pistol that flies in the face of the AW penal code. For your incriminatory pleasure I'll even save you the effort of looking up the code:



Now, go to town ese.

As to why? Wow... there's only ever one answer to that... Why not? Oh and I already have a full-size Uzi. Now maybe I just need to conclude my Uzi trifecta?

No need to be rude man, I am just saying - At least with an AK-47 and the AR-15 you have the BB or MM Grip. This looks pretty scary and if people are getting arrested for OLL Legal AK's and AR's - I would assume that this would surely land you in jail for a night or two, I never said you would be charged.

You don't seem to think this is just a tad bit more risky then say an AR-15 with a bullet button or MM Grip?

On a side note, could you send me a picture of you UZI - I want to see what a CA UZI looks like.

[Bucc]

That's awesome.
I had one of these things.
Left it in Phoenix in part trade for an M1A from Shooters World.
Anyway I never missed it until tonight with all this building talk going on and the reasons behind building the most useless butt ugly semi auto 9mm on the planet.

Hey plinker,
When you said trifecta you don't mean to say you have a mini Uzi.....right...............

[aplinker]

Ignorant LEOs will arrest for a Glock. If I have an LEO looking at my firearms (outside the range) I messed up already. I'm not sweating it beyond that. I follow the law. Period.



No, no mini... yet... it's just as legal, though. You just pull the handguard on the front.

Frames were up for sale on here a while ago. I just couldn't justify the cost + parts kit for them, though... then... now... regrets.

My full-size is just parts until I get it finished. I'll post pics when it's done.

Jamesob is a brilliant dude, let me just say that.

That's awesome.
I had one of these things.
Left it in Phoenix in part trade for an M1A from Shooters World.
Anyway I never missed it until tonight with all this building talk going on and the reasons behind building the most useless butt ugly semi auto 9mm on the planet.

Hey plinker,
When you said trifecta you don't mean to say you have a mini Uzi.....right...............

[Bucc]

Yup, I'm with you on following the law.
I don't screw around either, not worth it.
On that mini Uzi if you said yes I was going to have to really start to hate you.
I got to shoot one years ago and it kinda got under my skin.

[PsychoTrucker]

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[jhova98040]

What law school? What year?

2L UC Hastings

[jhova98040]

I didn't think you could import into California a handgun that wasn't on the approved list, unless it was a C+R. Wouldnt you have to find a micro uzi pistol in CA and do a face to face? Otherwise we'd all be doing Gunbroker transfers on handguns we want

And Micro Uzi's are very rare as I recall.

hypothetically if one had a parent or grandparent out of state who could legally purchase said pistol it seems that they would be able to gift it at a future date to a CA resident provided all out of state transfer laws were followed. i could be wrong though.