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  • nothinghere2c
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 2259

    Glock 23 Failure to Fire

    Ok my dudes, this threw me for a loop...

    My bro has been deciding on which handgun he wanted to buy as his first, so I offered to let him shoot my Glock, 1911, M&P, etc.

    Needless to say, I really like Glocks for their simplicity. I've never had an issue with it so I suggested he get a Glock or M&P (the grip on these are just too nice).

    I explained everything to him, safe handling, how to grip it, etc.

    He picked it up, chambered a round, and it went 'click.'

    I said "hmm thats odd, rack it again"

    He did, and it again went 'click.'

    I looked at the primers, and it didn't even look like the pin hit it at all.

    I got frustrated, and tried a few myself, all of which went 'click' with no bang. I stripped it down, dumped a bunch of CLP down into the firing pin area, re-assembled it, racked it about 6 times, and it worked flawlessly again.

    What do you guys think? Has this happened to you? Do the firing pins get sticky or something in there? It made me nervous because this is usually my home defense go-to gun. Thank god I never had to use it.

    Oh and please refrain from "glocks suck" comments

    Well, maybe just a few for good measure.
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    nothinghere2c
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 2259

    not sure if it matters, but it was as cold as a refrigerator in the range too

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    • #3
      DFence
      • Feb 2012
      • 1368

      Might be to much lube in the striker channel. To much fluid of any type can cause the striker to hydraulic up and not allow it to hit the primer.

      Have you ever had the gun inspected or fully torn down by a armorer?
      Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

      NRA Certified Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/PPIH/PPOH Instructor | NRA Certified RSO | NRA Life Member | GSSF Life Time Member | Surefire Low Light Instructor | Glock Certified Armorer | Utah CCW Instructor | Nevada CCW Instructor

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      • #4
        nothinghere2c
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 2259

        Originally posted by DFence
        Might be to much lube in the striker channel. To much fluid of any type can cause the striker to hydraulic up and not allow it to I he primer.

        Have you ever had the gun inspected or fully torn down by a armorer?
        never had it looked at by a professional "armorer" however I usually clean it after about 150 rounds. I've shot maybe 500 through it with not a single issue till today.

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        • #5
          G-forceJunkie
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 6446

          Originally posted by nothinghere2c
          . I stripped it down, dumped a bunch of CLP down into the firing pin area
          That is probably your problem. The firing pin area is supposed to be BONE DRY. Absolutly ZERO lube in that area. It just gums it all up. Find a Glock Armorer to properly clean it out.

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          • #6
            sirgiles
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 2311

            here lies the problem: never put clp "into the firing pin area."
            "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

            Bruce Lee

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            • #7
              RoundEye
              CGSSA Director
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Mar 2010
              • 3671

              Originally posted by nothinghere2c
              Ok my dudes, this threw me for a loop...

              My bro has been deciding on which handgun he wanted to buy as his first, so I offered to let him shoot my Glock, 1911, M&P, etc.

              Needless to say, I really like Glocks for their simplicity. I've never had an issue with it so I suggested he get a Glock or M&P (the grip on these are just too nice).

              I explained everything to him, safe handling, how to grip it, etc.

              He picked it up, chambered a round, and it went 'click.'

              I said "hmm thats odd, rack it again"

              He did, and it again went 'click.'

              I looked at the primers, and it didn't even look like the pin hit it at all.

              I got frustrated, and tried a few myself, all of which went 'click' with no bang. I stripped it down, dumped a bunch of CLP down into the firing pin area, re-assembled it, racked it about 6 times, and it worked flawlessly again.

              What do you guys think? Has this happened to you? Do the firing pins get sticky or something in there? It made me nervous because this is usually my home defense go-to gun. Thank god I never had to use it.

              Oh and please refrain from "glocks suck" comments

              Well, maybe just a few for good measure.
              Without actually inspecting the firearm it's hard to say what the issue is as there are a few moving parts that could preventing the pistol from firing. On another note, the firing pin channel is suppose to be kept dry, so if you frequently oil or use CLP to the clean the area without ensuring that it's completely dry it's possible that it could be gummed up.

              Other causes could be: out of battery, an issue with the firing pin safety, and issue with the trigger with trigger bar, ...
              Chad C.
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              • #8
                DFence
                • Feb 2012
                • 1368

                Originally posted by nothinghere2c
                never had it looked at by a professional "armorer" however I usually clean it after about 150 rounds. I've shot maybe 500 through it with not a single issue till today.

                Cheap insurance maybe to have a armorer look at it. Hopefully it's just excessive lubrication but if one of the internal safeties are not working correctly, you should have that repaired ASAP before firing it again.
                Its not paranoid.....its prepared.

                NRA Certified Pistol/Rifle/Shotgun/PPIH/PPOH Instructor | NRA Certified RSO | NRA Life Member | GSSF Life Time Member | Surefire Low Light Instructor | Glock Certified Armorer | Utah CCW Instructor | Nevada CCW Instructor

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                • #9
                  nothinghere2c
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 2259

                  Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
                  That is probably your problem. The firing pin area is supposed to be BONE DRY. Absolutly ZERO lube in that area. It just gums it all up. Find a Glock Armorer to properly clean it out.
                  Whats the best way to clean the face where the firing pin protrudes without getting cleaning crap down into that area? From what you all are saying, and from how I clean this thing, I bet a bunch of crap is getting down in there...

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                  • #10
                    sirgiles
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2311

                    Originally posted by nothinghere2c
                    Whats the best way to clean the face where the firing pin protrudes without getting cleaning crap down into that area? From what you all are saying, and from how I clean this thing, I bet a bunch of crap is getting down in there...
                    if it is gummed up, it needs to be disassembled and cleaned.
                    "I'm not in this world to live up to your expectations and you're not in this world to live up to mine."

                    Bruce Lee

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                    • #11
                      Flowmini98
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 651

                      Originally posted by nothinghere2c
                      Whats the best way to clean the face where the firing pin protrudes without getting cleaning crap down into that area? From what you all are saying, and from how I clean this thing, I bet a bunch of crap is getting down in there...
                      I hit my slide with a dry/lube-free toothbrush or cleaning brush, and a few Qtips for the real tight spots. Thats all I do to mine.

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                      • #12
                        G-forceJunkie
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 6446

                        There shouldnt be crap on the breachface, unless your over lubeing it creating a mess. You shouldnt see much more than light, dry powder fowling that will wipe off with a cotton patch. The skinny end of an AR cleaning "toothbrush" is plenty to wipe the area clean. Wrap a patch with a tiny bit of clp on it if needed, but never enough clp that it runs anywhere. If your ever in the Los Angeles area, I'll clean it for you, and show you how to properly lube it (it takes about 1 to 1.5 drops for the entire pistol.)
                        Last edited by G-forceJunkie; 12-26-2012, 11:51 PM.

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                        • #13
                          nothinghere2c
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 2259

                          aahhh...

                          i think i was overdoing it then. thank you all for the advice and input.

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                          • #14
                            RoundEye
                            CGSSA Director
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 3671

                            You shoud just be able to use a nylon brush with light amount of CLP on it if needed.

                            Chad C.
                            Certified GLOCK Armorer
                            NRA Certified Pistol Instructor, & RSO
                            CA DOJ Firearm Safety Instructor


                            My YouTube Channel

                            Subscribe to my blog
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                            • #15
                              nothinghere2c
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2259

                              thanks my dude

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