unfortunately this is yet another lube thread

[TempleKnight]

No high horse.

If you want to justify your purchase, that's fine.

For the record: 4oz of Froglube at Brownells = around 18 bucks. 32 OZ of mobile 1, 7 bucks at your local auto parts store.

Wasn't trying to make you feel bad about your lubrication purchase. I was attempting to do exactly what you ^^^^^ asked me to do.

If you have a better way to convey it, by all means do so.

-Freq

I was with you until you suggested Mobil 1. Sure, it's a good lube but it migrates BADLY. If you use on AR bolt it will on the outside of your AR by morning. A little Frog lube goes a long way.

[Mr310]

For me, it's one of tradition. I don't see myself ever changing from Hoppes and Birchwood Casey gun oil.

[Freq18Hz]

OP, you're being kind of a jerk. Well, more than kinda.

Some people are sensitive to chemicals (some hyper-sensitive) due to overexposure sometime in their past. They cannot use anything that has a chemical smell, so WD-40 and even motor oil is out for them.

Your way is not the only way, despite what you obviously think. You may have something of value to say here, but your delivery leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm pretty sure I said what I had to say as delicately as I could. Feel free to paraphrase for me if you are feeling sensitive.

-Freq

[Freq18Hz]

What grease do you use or recommend?

Any fluoropolymer grease (usually with Teflon in it). It gets branded for various things (bikes, car bearings etc.). Pretty sure it's all made by Dupont anyway. Going rate is usually anywhere from $40-$60 for a 4lb tub of it. Would likely last the average shooter their whole lives; a little goes a long way.

-Freq

[ptroxx]

sorry but the frog lube is cheaper that your mobil 1

FrogLube 4 oz Paste Lubricant | Bio-Based Firearm Cleaner price: $8.95
Mobil/1 qt. SAE 10W-30 full synthetic motor oil Price:$8.99
I dont feel bad about my purchase at all, and it looks like many other people are happy with it,,, no rubber gloves required to apply, smells great can clean guns in front of my tv, the misses doesnt get upset because of the smell,. its safe around kids and pets. I can go on and on... made in the good ol USA.
you can stick with youor stinky oil just dont spill it all over the place cause it will stain everything..

Good thing you didnt want another lube vs lube thread... guess you got one..

No high horse.

If you want to justify your purchase, that's fine.

For the record: 4oz of Froglube at Brownells = around 18 bucks. 32 OZ of mobile 1, 7 bucks at your local auto parts store.

Wasn't trying to make you feel bad about your lubrication purchase. I was attempting to do exactly what you ^^^^^ asked me to do.

If you have a better way to convey it, by all means do so.

-Freq

[OliveDrab]

Just remember, you weren't made without lube.

On a more serious note. I agree with the OP. many gun lubes are very similar to standard auto lubes.

I just got my first 1911 and wanted to treat it right. I got some slide glide. When I got it reminded me of my Mobil 1 red grease. Color texture viscosity ect.

Lets set aside people who are sensitive to chemicals or are cleaning outside.

Lube is lube

[CAGLS]

The properties I looked for when choosing products to lube my weapons are first to have the most anti-corrosion, rust protection, element barrier against moisture and corrosive elements in ammunition. Also for grease the ability remain in the area lubed which Slide Glide Lite seems to do a good job of. Second would be to negate slide rail wear from the action, metal to metal wear throughout the pistol and last to aid in friction drag in the large and small mechanical moving parts in the gun.

I have found these tests performed:

Corrosion Protection Products
How to Keep Your Rifle Rust-Free in Storage


Rust Preventatives for firearms

Flork's Lubrication Recommendation from Sigforum.com article also shown in Grayguns.com, Bruce Gray a master gun smith specializing in Sig Sauer firearms.

I have also tried a sample of Newt Livesay's anti corrosion weapon protection in which he also performs tests shown on his website. He says he supplies a friend that frequents gun shows with a display of a steel gun coated with his product and submerged in a fish tank full of water showing no signs of rust. He sent it to me in what looks to be black speaker box carpet soaked in his product in zip lock bags. Once it dry it provides the same protection.

I've narrowed it down to these products. For now I've been using Slide Glide Lite just on the rails. When I clean I use Hoppes solvent 9. To lubricate, besides using grease on the slide, all mtm contact, I use Eezox which seems to do the best in these tests against rust and corrosion along with friction drag.

I probably could get away with replacing Slide Glide Lite with Mobile 1 synthetic grease which looks and seems the same consistency of SGL. To apply the grease I use these packed it in a Monoject irrigation curved tip syringe used for dental gum irrigation you can buy on Ebay for a couple bucks. They're perfect to lube slide rails very easy to do with the curved tip and it won't scratch any metal as opposed to a blunt metal needle. I keep one in a zip lock back when I go to the range and one on my work bench.



I use gloves to clean and when I tried using CLP breakfree it would leave a white cloudy residue on everything and also burn and dissolve through the vinyl gloves I use while not really removing the gun powder residue that well. So for me Hoppes solvent 9 does a better job. Then I take a rem oil wipes and coat the entire pistol.

I understand the op's rant against using firearm specific lubes or greases due to some marketing claims against real world proven products, but you are ensuring reliability and longevity of your firearms which many spend a great deal of money on and rely on them to bang when they need to.

[Mr310]

sorry but the frog lube is cheaper that your mobil 1

FrogLube 4 oz Paste Lubricant | Bio-Based Firearm Cleaner price: $8.95
Mobil/1 qt. SAE 10W-30 full synthetic motor oil Price:$8.99
I dont feel bad about my purchase at all, and it looks like many other people are happy with it,,, no rubber gloves required to apply, smells great can clean guns in front of my tv, the misses doesnt get upset because of the smell,. its safe around kids and pets. I can go on and on... made in the good ol USA.
you can stick with youor stinky oil just dont spill it all over the place cause it will stain everything..

Good thing you didnt want another lube vs lube thread... guess you got one..

Might want to check your math there.


FWIW, I don't think the OP is being a jerk at all. In fact, I see it as a constructive service. I do think that motor oil is far more difficult to work cleanly with than my gun oil, though.

[ptroxx]

Might want to check your math there.


FWIW, I don't think the OP is being a jerk at all. In fact, I see it as a constructive service. I do think that motor oil is far more difficult to work cleanly with than my gun oil, though.

actually you may want to check yours..

mobil 1 8.99
fl 8.95

.04 cents cheaper by my math...

[myk]

I use Hoppe's products, because that's the brand that's featured in Sons of Anarchy...

[FLAWLS1]

Mobil 1 sucks! I'll use Redline instead. No, but seriously I read in the past about how motor oil isn't good for the guns finish. Something about petroleum, but I don't know if that's true or not.

[Mr310]

actually you may want to check yours..

mobil 1 8.99
fl 8.95

.04 cents cheaper by my math...

Yes, 4 cents cheaper for 1/8 the amount. 32 oz. to a qt.

[myk]

Mobil 1 sucks! I'll use Redline instead. No, but seriously I read in the past about how motor oil isn't good for the guns finish. Something about petroleum, but I don't know if that's true or not.

Yeah, keep the Mobil 1 in the LS1, lol...

[Freq18Hz]

sorry but the frog lube is cheaper that your mobil 1

FrogLube 4 oz Paste Lubricant | Bio-Based Firearm Cleaner price: $8.95
Mobil/1 qt. SAE 10W-30 full synthetic motor oil Price:$8.99
I dont feel bad about my purchase at all, and it looks like many other people are happy with it,,, no rubber gloves required to apply, smells great can clean guns in front of my tv, the misses doesnt get upset because of the smell,. its safe around kids and pets. I can go on and on... made in the good ol USA.
you can stick with youor stinky oil just dont spill it all over the place cause it will stain everything..

Good thing you didnt want another lube vs lube thread... guess you got one..

1 QT = 32oz

Mobile 1 32oz = $8.99
Froglube 32oz = $70.60

I suppose we did end up with another VS. thread, and we always will as long as there are forum members like you that turn them into one in order to justify their own purchases.

Then again, if I was paying an extra 60+ bucks for oil, I'd probably be a little sensitive too.

In all seriousness though: This thread was never specifically about Froglube. It was used as an example, along with many other lubes that get discussed here.

If you want to spend money on a lube that smells pleasant to you, no one is going to stop you. You don't need to come in and crap on a thread though, that is pointing out the fact that you are paying 7x the price for it, when there are many other alternatives that have been around a long time that offer similar or better performance.

-Freq

[ptroxx]