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unfortunately this is yet another lube thread
EDIT: title changed to more accurately reflect unfortunate state of thread
Folks,
I normally wouldn't post something like this, so apologies in advance if it finds you ill, or doesn't sit well with you. Not trying to stir up a hornets nest. Merely trying help out our community.
I've seen A LOT of lubrication threads on this forum since I joined. When I joined, I was mostly new to pistols. Not new however to rifles, machines, or lubricants.
Here's something I believe strongly:
"Gun branded lubricants and solvents are a cottage industry designed to make money off of people".
Greases, Oils, and Solvents aren't new. There have been very few measurable performance improvements in the formulations of this stuff since the 1950's (except to make some of them "environmentally friendly", i.e. in many cases does not work as well).
EDIT: Some Frog Lube fanatics have pointed out in the thread below how much they enjoy it's performance and properties. I applaud your success! FYI The formulation of these bio oils have not changed much, in a THOUSAND years. You can buy the same stuff that is Froglube, for less, just like the US military does. THIS IS NOT A FROGLUBE SPECIFIC THREAD. See post: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...9&postcount=70
We sent a space shuttle to the moon in the 1960's. We had squadrons of planes in the 1920's. We've had giant ships with huge engines for over 100 years. Do you honestly think your gun requires a higher tolerance lubricant than the engines of a WWII aircraft carrier?
Any high friction grease will do (bike grease for instance) when it comes to greasing your gun. When it comes to oil, synthetic motor oil (the kind you get a big container of for a few bucks) is pretty much the same thing as all the expensive synthetic gun oils you guys are using. Except that motor oil probably works as good or better, and is rated for higher temperatures, and lasts longer. Not to mention it is tested billions of times every single day in car engines. Edit for the Frog Fanatics: There are other soy/clove based oils as well, with similar properties as froglube (perhaps different scents), you can even buy the same stuff which has not been branded Froglube from the people that supply them (and the US military) with it. Again, this IS NOT a Froglube specific thread.
You can convince yourself that your EWG, CLP, Froglube, Slide Glide, EWL, blah blah wonder lubes on your pistol are worth the price if you want...
In reality though, they are made with either the same, or inferior formulas of stuff you can find in bulk at your average hardware/home supply stores. You are just paying more for the name and the label that says GUN OIL or GUN GREASE on it.
FAR more important than what whizbang brand of lube you guys are putting on your guns, is HOW and WHERE you are putting it on your gun, and HOW OFTEN, and HOW MUCH.
We really need to cut down on all of these silly lubrication VS. threads, and start getting some science/practical knowledge in here folks. High friction greases, oils, solvents, and other lubricants have been around for a long, long time. Stop wasting your cash!
-Freq
p.s. I realize that I just created another lube thread Maybe this can be the last one ever? Pretty please?
Folks,
I normally wouldn't post something like this, so apologies in advance if it finds you ill, or doesn't sit well with you. Not trying to stir up a hornets nest. Merely trying help out our community.
I've seen A LOT of lubrication threads on this forum since I joined. When I joined, I was mostly new to pistols. Not new however to rifles, machines, or lubricants.
Here's something I believe strongly:
"Gun branded lubricants and solvents are a cottage industry designed to make money off of people".
Greases, Oils, and Solvents aren't new. There have been very few measurable performance improvements in the formulations of this stuff since the 1950's (except to make some of them "environmentally friendly", i.e. in many cases does not work as well).
EDIT: Some Frog Lube fanatics have pointed out in the thread below how much they enjoy it's performance and properties. I applaud your success! FYI The formulation of these bio oils have not changed much, in a THOUSAND years. You can buy the same stuff that is Froglube, for less, just like the US military does. THIS IS NOT A FROGLUBE SPECIFIC THREAD. See post: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...9&postcount=70
We sent a space shuttle to the moon in the 1960's. We had squadrons of planes in the 1920's. We've had giant ships with huge engines for over 100 years. Do you honestly think your gun requires a higher tolerance lubricant than the engines of a WWII aircraft carrier?
Any high friction grease will do (bike grease for instance) when it comes to greasing your gun. When it comes to oil, synthetic motor oil (the kind you get a big container of for a few bucks) is pretty much the same thing as all the expensive synthetic gun oils you guys are using. Except that motor oil probably works as good or better, and is rated for higher temperatures, and lasts longer. Not to mention it is tested billions of times every single day in car engines. Edit for the Frog Fanatics: There are other soy/clove based oils as well, with similar properties as froglube (perhaps different scents), you can even buy the same stuff which has not been branded Froglube from the people that supply them (and the US military) with it. Again, this IS NOT a Froglube specific thread.
You can convince yourself that your EWG, CLP, Froglube, Slide Glide, EWL, blah blah wonder lubes on your pistol are worth the price if you want...
In reality though, they are made with either the same, or inferior formulas of stuff you can find in bulk at your average hardware/home supply stores. You are just paying more for the name and the label that says GUN OIL or GUN GREASE on it.
FAR more important than what whizbang brand of lube you guys are putting on your guns, is HOW and WHERE you are putting it on your gun, and HOW OFTEN, and HOW MUCH.
We really need to cut down on all of these silly lubrication VS. threads, and start getting some science/practical knowledge in here folks. High friction greases, oils, solvents, and other lubricants have been around for a long, long time. Stop wasting your cash!
-Freq
p.s. I realize that I just created another lube thread
Maybe this can be the last one ever? Pretty please?
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