Ppt AR-pistol question

[skyscraper]

I was in a gunshop trying to ppt an AR pistol lower. It is the complete lower and there is a bb installed. I was told that they will only transfer it if there Is an upper attached to it because as of right now it is only a frame. Is this correct? I thought it only needed an upper to initially purchase it in SIngle shot configuration.

[chillincody]

yea that is correct it will need to be complete and in single shot exemption form to be sold to you once its in your hands your free to do as you wish as long as its legal some places like EBR do upper buy backs where you buy the complete pistol then after the dros wait you pick it up and sell the upper back to them but not may places offer this

[desertjosh]

My understanding is you cant even buy an AR pistol lower in cali. All the stripped lowers in cali are for rifle lowers. You can either buy a complete gun, or build from an 80% lower.

[chillincody]

My understanding is you cant even buy an AR pistol lower in cali. All the stripped lowers in cali are for rifle lowers. You can either buy a complete gun, or build from an 80% lower.

you can buy a ar pistol lower if you are a exempt person ( LEO ) if you are not a exempt person you must buy it in complete and in SSE form to avoid the unsafe handgun law or build one from a 80%

[ke6guj]

I was in a gunshop trying to ppt an AR pistol lower. It is the complete lower and there is a bb installed. I was told that they will only transfer it if there Is an upper attached to it because as of right now it is only a frame. Is this correct? I thought it only needed an upper to initially purchase it in SIngle shot configuration.

its hard to do the HSD on an incomplete pistol. Now, if the gunshop had that exact same make/model pistol in stock, they could have let you do the HSD on that pistol, but the chances of them having the exact same make/model is rare. If you can't do the HSD, they can't PPT it to you.

[chillincody]

also skyscraper if the shop you are buying it from wants to much $ for the upper ask them if you can order it online and bring it in to start the dros process this way you can save a few 100 $ this is a good cheap website that has ar pistol uppers http://www.jsesurplus.com/

[ke6guj]

you can buy a ar pistol lower if you are a exempt person ( LEO ) if you are not a exempt person you must buy it in complete and in SSE form to avoid the unsafe handgun law or build one from a 80%

for a PPT, it doesn't need to be in an SSE configuration, but it does need to be complete so that you can do the HSD.

It can be a 10-shot AR-pistol when you PPT it.

Just like you can PPT an STI 1911 or Gen4 Glock in its factory configuration, no SLED needed for the PPT.

[skyscraper]

Thanks guys. I understand now.

Can I add a 16" upper to it for dros, then take it back? I don't have anything smaller than 16" rifle upper.

[ke6guj]

if you give a barreled upper to the seller so that he can bring in a complete pistol, that should work (some dealers will still want it in SSE config, but it isn't legally required for a PPT).

the next issue is whether or not DROSing it with a 16+" barrel is an problem. It gets into grey area that we don't 100% know the answer to.

[skyscraper]

Ok good to know. Looks like I need to sell it to someone who has a pistol length upper.

[chillincody]

for a PPT, it doesn't need to be in an SSE configuration, but it does need to be complete so that you can do the HSD.

It can be a 10-shot AR-pistol when you PPT it.

Just like you can PPT an STI 1911 or Gen4 Glock in its factory configuration, no SLED needed for the PPT.

for some reason I read ppt but still thought he was buying through the shop lol im dumb and what is HSD ?? handgun safety demo ?? (ive never bought a handgun before) do you really have to demonstrate safe handling on all handguns bought ?? I thought that was just for you to get a HSC

[skyscraper]

for some reason I read ppt but still thought he was buying through the shop lol im dumb and what is HSD ?? handgun safety demo ?? (ive never bought a handgun before) do you really have to demonstrate safe handling on all handguns bought ?? I thought that was just for you to get a HSC

Yes, unless you have a CCW, then you are exempt from it.

[chillincody]

Yes, unless you have a CCW, then you are exempt from it.

O dam that is dumb but understandable after all this is CA lol I wonder why they dont make us do safety demos for long guns .. are handguns that much more deadly lol stupid Ca laws

[skyscraper]

Yeah California politicians really have more of a hard on for handguns it seems like. I can tell you I'd rather face a handgun than a rifle any day!

[chillincody]

Yeah California politicians really have more of a hard on for handguns it seems like. I can tell you I'd rather face a handgun than a rifle any day!

lol yeap thats how I see it Ive been shot at by a shotgun and have had a handgun stuck to the back of my head ,the shotgun by far scared me worst for some reason