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Okay so. I just went to pick up my gp100 revolver from river city gun exchange in sacramento. I brought my gun case that locks and a cable lock to lock the gun itself. Well they guy said do you have the recipt for the lock!! I was like what? I obviosly didn't have the recipt for the lock. So they made me buy one. never in my years of buyin a pistol in sac have I had to have the recipt for the gun lock. Is this true or they just screwing me over?
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The reason you need the receipt, if you're not using the lock originally provided with the gun, is that you must show that the lock was purchased within the last 30 days.
Penal Code Section 23635
(a) Any firearm sold or transferred in this state by a
licensed firearms dealer, including a private transfer through a
dealer, and any firearm manufactured in this state, shall include or
be accompanied by a firearm safety device that is listed on the
Department of Justice's roster of approved firearm safety devices and
that is identified as appropriate for that firearm by reference to
either the manufacturer and model of the firearm, or to the physical
characteristics of the firearm that match those listed on the roster
for use with the device.
(b) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from
subdivision (a) if both of the following apply:
(1) The purchaser or transferee owns a gun safe that meets the
standards set forth in Section 23650. Gun safes shall not be required
to be tested, and therefore may meet the standards without appearing
on the Department of Justice roster.
(2) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt for
purchase of the gun safe, or other proof of purchase or ownership of
the gun safe as authorized by the Attorney General, to the firearms
dealer. The dealer shall maintain a copy of this receipt or proof of
purchase with the dealer's record of sales of firearms.
(c) The sale or transfer of a firearm shall be exempt from
subdivision (a) if all of the following apply:
(1) The purchaser or transferee purchases an approved safety
device no more than 30 days prior to the day the purchaser or
transferee takes possession of the firearm.
(2) The purchaser or transferee presents the approved safety
device to the firearms dealer when picking up the firearm.
(3) The purchaser or transferee presents an original receipt to
the firearms dealer, which shows the date of purchase, the name, and
the model number of the safety device.
(4) The firearms dealer verifies that the requirements in
paragraphs (1) to (3), inclusive, have been satisfied.
(5) The firearms dealer maintains a copy of the receipt along with
the dealer's record of sales of firearms.
(d) (1) Any long-gun safe commercially sold or transferred in this
state, or manufactured in this state for sale in this state, that
does not meet the standards for gun safes adopted pursuant to Section
23650 shall be accompanied by the following warning:
"WARNING: This gun safe does not meet the safety standards for gun
safes specified in California Penal Code Section 23650. It does not
satisfy the requirements of Penal Code Section 23635, which mandates
that all firearms sold in California be accompanied by a firearm
safety device or proof of ownership, as required by law, of a gun
safe that meets the Section 23650 minimum safety standards developed
by the California Attorney General."
(2) This warning shall be conspicuously displayed in its entirety
on the principal display panel of the gun safe's package, on any
descriptive materials that accompany the gun safe, and on a label
affixed to the front of the gun safe.
(3) This warning shall be displayed in both English and Spanish,
in conspicuous and legible type in contrast by typography, layout, or
color with other printed matter on the package or descriptive
materials, in a manner consistent with Part 1500.121 of Title 16 of
the Code of Federal Regulations, or successor regulations thereto.
(e) Any firearm sold or transferred in this state by a licensed
firearms dealer, including a private transfer through a dealer, and
any firearm manufactured in this state, shall be accompanied by
warning language or a label as described in Section 23640. -
I'm not 100% on the law but personally I think they were screwing you over.My Ruger GP-100 came with a cable lock from Ruger. That said when I purchased my AR it did not come with cable lock and all they had me do was fill out another form that declared the make/model of the gun safe I owned (there are probably differences between the laws regarding handguns and rifles). Either way if you brought a cable lock with you I can't see why they would make you purchase another.
In any case enjoy your GP-100
It's a great gun and I love mine!
Edit: Thanks DSB, learn something every day
Last edited by Roland Deschain; 11-17-2012, 4:57 PM.Comment
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DSB is correct. It gets OLD, specially when you have a bunch of Gunlocks laying around. Some Shops will allow a Crappy DATED handwritten Receipt. The last 3 purchases I made, that`s exactly what I did. I complained, a a Vendor on this Site told me it was ok to do...
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As usual, this is an FAQ, and the long explanation is at the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Bu...es.2C_and_LawsARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!Comment
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I'll never understand how BATFE gets away with not having to accept the safe affidavit."You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
"What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
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Huh. I've never had a problem with a safe affidavit."Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo MachiavelliComment
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What I have done in the past is I buy a lock at Wal-Mart and keep the receipt and the lock unopened. When I go pickup my gun I use one of the old locks I have lying around and show the receipt from the recent purchase._██_
(ಠ_ృ) riveting tale, chap.Comment
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Buy the lock. Take the gun to the car. Go back in and return the lock and get your money back.NRA Life Member
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US Navy 1979-1983 Gunners Mate Guns (GMG)
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Me neither. Write your Congressman - safes are legal, according to the definitions in Federal law
For long guns, you wouldn't.
For handguns, perhaps your FFL is playing with fire. BATF not only has not figured out how to accept a safe, but they have not provided guidance on how to document that handgun sales meet the lock requirement in Federal law. (If, by chance, his/her BATF auditor has given written guidance, it would be a Major Benefit to publish that.)ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page
Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!Comment
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Was this a new gun? All my Rugers came with locks.Comment
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I bought a NEW CZ97B this year and it didn't come with a gun lock and had to buy one. Just happy to get my CZ...Comment
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totally legit and a seriously stupid hassle. what'll they think of next?Comment
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