9MM Hand Guns

[-hanko]

Either the HP or CZ75 best fit the majority of hands. Either are reliable enough + to stake your life on. There's a reason they hold resale value well .

Try 'em.

-hanko

[Omega13device]

First, take a safety class if you don't already have experience handling and shooting firearms. Safety can't be overemphasized.

Second, follow the advice of many on this board and find something that fits your hand. How will you know? It's like sitting in a chair; either it feels comfortable or it doesn't.

IMO you don't have to shoot the gun before you buy it. They all go bang pretty much the same way.

Finally, you can't make a bad choice among much any of the models that are mentioned here. Beretta, Sig, Glock, CZ, Browning Hi-Power, Springfield, etc. They are all high-quality firearms and anyone claiming "XYZ brand is the BEST!!!" is just expressing a personal preference.

Just find one that fits well in your hand and buy it, trust me you'll be happy with it.

[Mr.RoDiN]

GLOCK!!!!!!!!But if you can spend another 150 dollars H&K USP can't go wrong.

[DPC]

Does it have to be a 9mm? Because I would go with a .40 Cal. My XD-40 is just flawless not one failure to feed or misfire not to mention the additional stopping power. I took my new Berretta Vertec to the range today after cleaning it and my XD40 still out performed it and I haven't cleaned the XD after three trips to the range. The Berretta after about 150 rnds started to fail to feed and it felt as if the spring didn't have enough tension feed the round up the ramp. Is this a common experience after shooting a larger caliber?

DPC

[taloft]

In addition to the gun price.

Don't forget that you will also be paying for H.S.C.(first time), D.R.O.S., and Taxes. This will add approx. $100.00 to your purchase.

[asintado]

Badger John's Huntin' Stuff in Sacramento will wave the HSC fee if you take it on the same day you buy your gun.

[swift]

Glock 19

GLOCK GLOCK GLOCK!!!

That gun will feed anything and if you where smart and bought high cap 17rd mags before the ban (which I'm sure you did) you can use those.

I did a test and didn't clean my glock 17 for a couple thousand rounds and it still functioned 100%. I noticed the glock range guns for rent were always durty. I asked them why they were that way when all the other guns looked semi clean. They told me they never have to clean the glocks. They get 6 months worth of shooting and then they clean them. Its the only gun out of a wall full that can do that.

I trust my life 100% to my glock. I have never had a problem with in the 7 years I have owned it. Its tough as nails and does not rust. The only thing you might have to get used to is the grip. Some like it, like myself, and some hate it. Rent one a few times and see how you like it.

Have Glock 19, think it's great, however it starts to malfunction after 200-250 rounds (fired in about an hour). Great pistol, accurate enough, and, after cleaning, it performs flawlessly. My USP NEVER malfunctioned, even after 500 rounds fired over two hours.

[CowtownBallin]

Have Glock 19, think it's great, however it starts to malfunction after 200-250 rounds (fired in about an hour). Great pistol, accurate enough, and, after cleaning, it performs flawlessly. My USP NEVER malfunctioned, even after 500 rounds fired over two hours.

Funny, that glock torture test that's been going on for over 100,000 rounds showed different results. The glock kept firing dirty, muddy, sandy, salty, whatever, while the h&k wouldn't even lock the slide properly. I was kinda disappointed, since I'm a Europhile and love German things. I really wanted a USP-C, but now I think it can wait until I get the CZ75, Walther P99, and maybe another wheelgun

[lunde]

Given your budget and needs, I'd strongly recommend the new Beretta Px4 Storm, specifically the "G" (decock-only) version. I bought mine as an "F" (decock/safety), and converted it into a "G" version by having the slim controls installed. Here is mine:





It shoots like a dream, and has a great trigger. More information here: http://www.px4storm.com/

[Justang]

Funny, that glock torture test that's been going on for over 100,000 rounds showed different results. The glock kept firing dirty, muddy, sandy, salty, whatever, while the h&k wouldn't even lock the slide properly. I was kinda disappointed, since I'm a Europhile and love German things. I really wanted a USP-C, but now I think it can wait until I get the CZ75, Walther P99, and maybe another wheelgun

It's that vid about the glocks right? I wouldn't expect them to say anything nice about the HK. But the HK has been put through torture tests as well, like this one. Don't let a Glock vid detour you from buying one of the best guns on earth. Oh and the new P2000's... wow, great guns. I've got the P2000sk and it's very accurate. Most people who shoot it are very impressed.

My HK USP 40 has over 10,000 rouds through it and I've never had a malfunction... not even a hiccup. My dad had 50k+ through his USP before his first malfunction.

I always think about it like this. The Glock keeps going past 100k, but what about the accuracy. All the high round Glocks I've shot aren't even combat accurate(Range guns). And the HK with 50k through it, I could still get 2-3" groups. I also shot HK range guns and they were much more accurate than the Glocks I was shooting.

Here in Costa Mesa, the police carry HK USP 40's. I think that's cool!

I realize I'm bashing Glocks. It's just my opinion. Try not to get upset. I do think Glocks are good guns. They are inexpensive (comparatively) and last forever. If anybody buys a Glock, they've bought a good gun. I just think HK's are a better gun.

[swift]

Funny, that glock torture test that's been going on for over 100,000 rounds showed different results. The glock kept firing dirty, muddy, sandy, salty, whatever, while the h&k wouldn't even lock the slide properly. I was kinda disappointed, since I'm a Europhile and love German things. I really wanted a USP-C, but now I think it can wait until I get the CZ75, Walther P99, and maybe another wheelgun

I've seen some of those results and I'm not going to argue with them. I've reproduced my G19 results with different ammo. At least I know I can rely on flawless performance for the first 20 magazines. Then I get 1-2 problems every 100 or so rounds afterwards.

[shark99999]

Ruger

I went and tested a ruger 9mm, seems pretty tough, any thoughts.

http://www.academy.com/index.php?page=content&target=products/outdoors/hunting/handguns&start=0&zoom=1&selectedSKU=0357-03387-3094

I hope this picture works, I have never posted a pic.

[maxicon]

The Ruger P95 series are very good guns - extremely sturdy and reliable, with excellent factory support. They're also blocky and bulky, and don't have the nicest triggers around. You can't beat them for the money, though, now that the CZs aren't available for $300 any more.

I have one that's been great, but I don't shoot it much any more since I standardized on the CZ75B for a defense gun. I found that the trigger was limiting my accuracy a lot - the gun shot small groups off the bench, but much larger ones freehand. Both my CZ75 and 1911 shoot much smaller groups freehand.

YMMV, of course - some people shoot very accurately with the P95.

Here's my standard pro/con report on the P95:

Plusses:
Sturdy, reliable, feeds about everything, inexpensive, good mechanical accuracy, easy to strip and clean, great customer service if you need it, soft recoil, fun to shoot, inexpensive mags.

Minuses:
Heavy, gritty, creepy trigger makes it harder to shoot accurately, not so many accessories for it (if that matters), bulky, fat grip, will drop the hammer pretty far out of battery (0.2", compared to 0.05" on my Milspec 1911).

Neutral (depends on your preferences):
Safety works backwards from many guns (up is off, down is on), safety decocks the gun (no cocked-and-locked).

max

[Satex]

You will probably hear every make and model recommended here. I like the Sig P229 and the Baretta 92FS.
But ignore all of us and do yourself a favor, go down to the store and find a handgun that fits your hand nicely. Of all the suggestions I have ever heard, that is probably the best when it comes to handguns. Handguns that don't fit your hand & grip well, won't shoot well. Those that will, will be very nice shooters regardless of brand.
Good luck!

[gmcem50]

Shoot first; buy later

I have several Glocks (17, 19, 26, 23, 36...) AND a Sig P226. I love the Glocks and I hate the Sig. Why? the Glocks fit my hand PERFECTLY and the Sig feels like crap in my hand. Is the Sig a good gun? Absolutely. Probably better than the Glocks. But it doesn't fit my hand so I don't like it or shoot it. Just about every mainstream brand listed in this thread is a quality piece worth consideration, but the ultimate factor is what fits you and what will you shoot.

Go to a range and rent every gun they have. Then you will know what you like and what fits your hand.

Wow, this thread didn't devolve into a Glock love/hate slug fest! I'm shocked.