XD40 question.

[socal147]

There were studies done by some magazine which compared it to Glock and put it through very harsh conditions found in true war/combat situations such as mud, under water, freezing in ice cubes and etc.. did better than Glock.

Ummmmm....Sorry.....Not Possible.

[Skin1991]

I love my XD I still want a glock though. Proably a glock 19. Just to have.

[AUstate]

What reasons would that be?

About using the Slide Stop or Slide release to chamber after a fresh mag.




I think what he is talking about is that in most of the "Tactical" classes and videos on the internet talking about surviving your next gunfight, it is the school of thought that you should not practice or train with using the slide stop/release, they have come to the conclusion that you must grab the slide and pull back and release to recharge the pistol.

Now the thought process behind this is something like in a life and death situation you might not be 100% be able to manipulate the slide release with your thumb.

And every pistol has different sizes and layouts of slide stop levers so if your having a gun fight one day and it happens to be with a pistol your not familiar with, you might fumble around trying to do your reload and lose the gunfight!

So by always training and practicing the slingshot method, where you use your free hand to pull back on the slide and let in go into battery. It will become 2nd nature.

Now if you dive further into this little tangent of weaponology, you will get into heated discussions of what was the actual designed purpose of the Slide Stop/Release on various firearms, and what the actual designers thought about it.


Here are my 2cents,
Enjoy your gun and use whatever method you feel is more comfortable for you.

I personally love the sound and feeling of dropping the slide with the release right after inserting a fresh mag. Something about doing it one handed and watching the slide slam forward knowing your ready to shoot is beautiful

But I do see the points that trainers are talking about.


Now there might have been a little sarcasm in my explanation of the whole slide stop/ slide release tactis above, and that is in no way directed towards the OPs statement. It was merely me trying to explain why the general training consensus thinks that way, and making it kind of light hearted because sometimes I think we all over think things to much.

To me it is not a big deal. However that slide goes forward is up to the user.

[Skin1991]

About using the Slide Stop or Slide release to chamber after a fresh mag.




I think what he is talking about is that in most of the "Tactical" classes and videos on the internet talking about surviving your next gunfight, it is the school of thought that you should not practice or train with using the slide stop/release, they have come to the conclusion that you must grab the slide and pull back and release to recharge the pistol.

Now the thought process behind this is something like in a life and death situation you might not be 100% be able to manipulate the slide release with your thumb.

And every pistol has different sizes and layouts of slide stop levers so if your having a gun fight one day and it happens to be with a pistol your not familiar with, you might fumble around trying to do your reload and lose the gunfight!

So by always training and practicing the slingshot method, where you use your free hand to pull back on the slide and let in go into battery. It will become 2nd nature.

Now if you dive further into this little tangent of weaponology, you will get into heated discussions of what was the actual designed purpose of the Slide Stop/Release on various firearms, and what the actual designers thought about it.


Here are my 2cents,
Enjoy your gun and use whatever method you feel is more comfortable for you.

I personally love the sound and feeling of dropping the slide with the release right after inserting a fresh mag. Something about doing it one handed and watching the slide slam forward knowing your ready to shoot is beautiful

But I do see the points that trainers are talking about.


Now there might have been a little sarcasm in my explanation of the whole slide stop/ slide release tactis above, and that is in no way directed towards the OPs statement. It was merely me trying to explain why the general training consensus thinks that way, and making it kind of light hearted because sometimes I think we all over think things to much.

To me it is not a big deal. However that slide goes forward is up to the user.

This all makes sence and I agree as to the fact that I find it doubtful most people will be in a gun fight lol.

[AUstate]

I love my XD I still want a glock though. Proably a glock 19. Just to have.

Well that is a great choice. I love my Glock 19. You definitely cannot go wrong with a 19.


I'll tell you what the most dangerous thing is.

When a person can own a gun without any Bias at all towards manufactures. You then start to accumulate every great gun that gets made.

You start getting into Glocks, but also see the great things about XD's, so you buy some. Then Smith & Wesson has to come out with the M&P, hmm... wallet starts crying.

And then one day you discover the European guns

CZs, Walthers, Siggs, HKs ect.


Im telling you the best flavor of Kool-Aid is when you mix them all together in equal parts, and be sure to top it off with a nice healthy dose of 1911.


I actually see why so many gun owners are very brand loyal and whatever they own and shoot the most, is always better then the other brand.

Its actually a very smart move financially. Without that blinding namebrand trust, they would be broke as hell. So to mentally deter themselves they just pick a camp and stick with it. I am seeing that I will probably have to do that soon as well.

Just got to figure out which one to pick

[Skin1991]

Well I hav my XD basic with some night sights, trigger job, tungsten guide rod. And I carry it at work and what not, I figure ill deck the glock out put a flash ligh on it and make it TACTIcool lol for home defense and whatever else. As for the 1911 I have a colt delta elite 10mm so that's my 1911. But a nice colt .45ACP is on the list.

[AUstate]

What trigger did you put in the XD?

[zfields]

Does anyone consider this to be a design flaw? I was thinking about getting an XD but not if it wont fire the first round if it's dirty.

I understand that all guns will stop functioning if not properly taken care of but it sounds to me that this could be considered a design flaw.

Not trying to start a debate, just thinking out loud.

It has to do with if there is oil in the striker channel. This is an issue with ALL striker fired guns. Oil and crud in the striker channel is a bad thing, it should be bone dry in there.

[Skin1991]

What trigger did you put in the XD?

the previous owner put the canyon creek spring kit in it, i put most of them back to the stock springs but left the trigger alone because i like it. I also have the tungsten guide rod. its a pretty nice, solid gun.

[zfields]

I would swap back to the OEM guide rod also just to eliminate that variable.

[Skin1991]

I would swap back to the OEM guide rod also just to eliminate that variable.

You think so?

[zfields]

You think so?

When Diagnosing an issue, get as far back to stock as possible, then go from there.


I doubt its the problem is its *only* from releasing from a slide lock, but no harm no foul. Not to mention I am not a fan of messing with the recoil system unless you are tailoring loads in a competition gun.

[Sire ATM]

yep, Austate answered it precisely. in leo training they taught to not release the slide using the slide lock and I noticed it helped with my XD. the XD cycles every brand of ammo differently for some reason, but reloads just don't function right. if it was used for a life or death situation, I only use new factory ammo I know the gun cycles well... if its a fun gun, shoot anything you want

[CGT80]

I shoot an XD 40 service but have a 9mm barsto barrel in it. It has a trigger job by daves metal works, pistol gear magwell and slide stop, DMW oversize mag release, and Dawson FO adjustable sights set in a bomar cut by DMW. The mags have rubber slam pads on the bottom, from pistol gear. I have 30k+ rounds through mine and almost all of them have been my own reloads. Mine runs great but will jamb once in a while. Running a conversion barrel with 40 cal mags and hand loads is not ideal, but it gets the job done and still allows me to be very competitive. Factory ammo has never given me an issue in 40 caliber.

My mom's xd 9 service was missing the striker buffer spring, from the factory. Sometimes the firing pin would protrude from the face of the slide and it would cause a round to get stuck on the pin as it tried to chamber. A $3 spring fixed this issue and the gun runs great. She has some of the same mods (trigger, mag release, sights) as me, but then we added a Cmore and Carver mount and a brass stacker slide racker. I also welded additional material onto her grip safety to make it a bit easier for her to keep the safety pressed in. Her hands just didn't quite work with that shape. Apparently, on 1911's, the grip safeties come in different profiles for this reason.

[Skin1991]

I have the 9mm conversion barrel also, never even used it though, the previous owner had it. I bought the gun to shoot .40 so that's what I am doing. I'm sure if I get the G19 ill use the barrel at the range but I would never rely on it.