XD40 question.

[Skin1991]

I took my XD out tonight and it was having an issue, when i would reload and hit the slide release it chambers a round, but the firing pin indicator doesnt come out the back and it wont fire. I then i pull the slide back, release it and it works but obviously spits the round out. what could cause the firing pin not to reset?

[AUstate]

There were some issues with the Striker Retainer pin. I think they have beefed up the pin on newer models, and I know there are good aftermarket ones.

That is the little roll pin that is on the top of your slide. Sometimes they would break from excessive dry firing and it would cause some problems with the functioning of the Striker.

That could be a possiblilitey. I will find you a video on how to check and take out the pin, its very easy but you MUST do it in the same order. If you try to remove the striker pin with out taking the tension off from the backplate then you can really mess things up. Now dont get nervous, its really easy and I will link you to a video.

2nd issue could just be a dirty Striker. You are not supposed to lubricate the Striker area with any oil or wet lube. If the Striker channel is overlubed and collects lots of grime and dirt then they can malfunction.

So not to worry, once you remove the Striker and have a look you should be able to get a better understanding of whats going on.


Here is a video that shows how to remove the Striker. Pay attention to the beginning.

Let us know what everything looks like when its removed. And if its real dirty clean good and leave dry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXlc6...ayer_embedded#!

[Skin1991]

There were some issues with the Striker Retainer pin. I think they have beefed up the pin on newer models, and I know there are good aftermarket ones.

That is the little roll pin that is on the top of your slide. Sometimes they would break from excessive dry firing and it would cause some problems with the functioning of the Striker.

That could be a possiblilitey. I will find you a video on how to check and take out the pin, its very easy but you MUST do it in the same order. If you try to remove the striker pin with out taking the tension off from the backplate then you can really mess things up. Now dont get nervous, its really easy and I will link you to a video.

2nd issue could just be a dirty Striker. You are not supposed to lubricate the Striker area with any oil or wet lube. If the Striker channel is overlubed and collects lots of grime and dirt then they can malfunction.

So not to worry, once you remove the Striker and have a look you should be able to get a better understanding of whats going on.


Here is a video that shows how to remove the Striker. Pay attention to the beginning.

Let us know what everything looks like when its removed. And if its real dirty clean good and leave dry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXlc6...ayer_embedded#!

Thank you so much, yeah it was filthy in there, and it was all oiley, so i am assuming that was the problem. I was freaking out because i have some training classes wednesday and thursday. Now i need to try to get out one day and pop off a few rounds and see what happens.

[AUstate]

Good to hear,

How did the Striker Retaining pin look? That little roll pin you knocked out.

Was it in good shape?


Just no that some people have had some issues with them breaking. And most of the time if they break they dont actually mess with the striker, but it has happened.

For that reason a lot of guys who use Older XD's for carry or comp will upgrade to a better roll pin,

Here is a link to the most popular aftermarket roll pin. You will have to look for it in that store. Comes with 3 spare pins. Some people will replace them just to have that extra piece of mind. I always told myself I will order some one day... but I have yet to do it.

http://shop.powderriverprecision.net/category.sc;jsessionid=FE90A90BE72553CF4B6172C63D9AF574.qscstrfrnt01?categoryId=4

Im almost certain you fixed the problem, so just keep her dry in the striker area and should be gtg.

[Skin1991]

The pin was good, doesnt look like its been messed with to much, i am the 2nd owner, i sure hope the problem is fixed! which XD do you have?

[AUstate]

I have a XD .40 Service.

Ya hopefully the problem is fixed. I guess only way to tell is at the range. Im not sure if snap caps could replicate the malfunction reliably enough.

Enjoy your training classes, update the thread on how it all goes.

[Skin1991]

I have a XD .40 Service.

Ya hopefully the problem is fixed. I guess only way to tell is at the range. Im not sure if snap caps could replicate the malfunction reliably enough.

Enjoy your training classes, update the thread on how it all goes.

I just checked with the snap caps, seemed to function fine, but it did last time i tried the snap caps to, it only hapened here and there at the range, but i am guessing it is fixed. is seemed smoother. it was really gummed up with oil and grease in there.

[Yerman]

Does anyone consider this to be a design flaw? I was thinking about getting an XD but not if it wont fire the first round if it's dirty.

I understand that all guns will stop functioning if not properly taken care of but it sounds to me that this could be considered a design flaw.

Not trying to start a debate, just thinking out loud.

[Sire ATM]

also, what type of ammo were you shooting. The XD has very tight tolerances compared to other firearms.Reloads/factory reloads will sometimes do the same exact thing. Sounded like you secured a loaded magazine into the handgun with the slide locked open and then used the slide lock to release and chamber a round; some would say not to do that as well for various reasons.

yerman:

There were studies done by some magazine which compared it to Glock and put it through very harsh conditions found in true war/combat situations such as mud, under water, freezing in ice cubes and etc.. did better than Glock.

[Skin1991]

also, what type of ammo were you shooting. The XD has very tight tolerances compared to other firearms.Reloads/factory reloads will sometimes do the same exact thing. Sounded like you secured a loaded magazine into the handgun with the slide locked open and then used the slide lock to release and chamber a round; some would say not to do that as well for various reasons.

yerman:

There were studies done by some magazine which compared it to Glock and put it through very harsh conditions found in true war/combat situations such as mud, under water, freezing in ice cubes and etc.. did better than Glock.

That is correct it was when I rechambered a round from a reload using the slide lock. I was using sellier and Bellot FMJ

[Fixmy59bug]

Wow.

Thank you very much, AUstate, for that video. I never knew how to take apart the firing pin setup on my XD's and was wondering about it because there apopears to be some oil in the pin cavity on my XD40.

Now I can strip both the 40 and the 9 and clean them out to make sure they operate 100%.

Thank you very much...

[Yerman]

Sounded like you secured a loaded magazine into the handgun with the slide locked open and then used the slide lock to release and chamber a round; some would say not to do that as well for various reasons.

What reasons would that be?

[Skin1991]

Wow.

Thank you very much, AUstate, for that video. I never knew how to take apart the firing pin setup on my XD's and was wondering about it because there apopears to be some oil in the pin cavity on my XD40.

Now I can strip both the 40 and the 9 and clean them out to make sure they operate 100%.

Thank you very much...

Yeah mine has a lot of oil in there to!

[Skin1991]

What reasons would that be?

Yeah and why wouldn't you rechambered by hitting the slide lock. How are you suppose to reload in a stress environment. Not saying anyone here has been in that situation but the what if factor it there.

[AUstate]

Does anyone consider this to be a design flaw? I was thinking about getting an XD but not if it wont fire the first round if it's dirty.

I understand that all guns will stop functioning if not properly taken care of but it sounds to me that this could be considered a design flaw.

Not trying to start a debate, just thinking out loud.

This has nothing to do with the gun just being dirty. Its only the combination of really over lubing the Striker Area, and after long use the oil collects all the dirt and grime and it gets packed in there.

This is the same with all Striker Fired pistols. Just do not apply oil to the Striker directly and you will be fine.

You can run these guns for a long time without cleaning if you want. Just like any other major brands comparable pistol, Glocks, M&Ps, P99/PPQs


Now as far as the Striker Retaining Roll Pin, yes I suppose that is a flaw. But it seems to be a common theme with almost every manufacture. Cheapen a couple little roll pins to save money. Its happening with the Smith & Wesson M&P also.