Beretta Problems

[Suvorov]

Could be the blazers, maybe try another type of ammo especially brass cased. Also, sounds like you want to look at the extractor and take a pipe cleaner to it to make sure there is not a lot of build up under the extractor or make sure the extractor is not chipped. A bad or fouled up extractor (or the aluminum casings not extracting well) will be the reason for your double feeds.

Also, I agree with the comment on the limp wristing. In using and training soldiers to shoot the M9 the overwhelming majority of malfunctions I saw soldiers having on a regular basis (barring a bad mag or broken weapon) was due to not holding the pistol firmly. The M9 has a large grip and it is easy to have a loose grip on it. Still, this usually produces a short cycle or stove pipe and not double feeding. Double feeding is most likely an extractor problem.

Double check these things and see how it goes. If you do have a bad extractor, they really are not that hard to replace.

Despite what many internet commandos say, the M9 is a good weapon and should be giving you thousands of trouble free shots.

[Nick5811]

I'd suggest lubing the hell out of it too.

In the Beretta armorer course I attended, they suggested 2 drops of oil on each of the 6 rails, one in the trigger spring, two on the hammer spring, one on the firing pin block, one inside each frame rail, two on the recoil spring/guide (one if polymer), one on the mid-rail of the slide, and one on the take down cam/pin.

I'd definitely pop out that extractor pin and clean that area out, as well as the firing pin channel. Make sure you re-stake it when you put it back in.

Good luck.

[maxicon]

I'll second the lubing. My friend has a 92 compact that was jamming and hanging all the time, so I stripped it, oiled everything, and put a bit of Tetra Grease on the rails and other moving parts. It ran like a champ after that.

It was pretty dry before, so if yours has a decent lube job already, it probably won't help.

[Ironchef]

Berretta says the M92 has a mean round count life of around 25,000 rounds.

Actually, the locking block is what's rated with a 25k round count if I'm not mistaken.

I've had some mag feeding issues with one of the original PB mags and I just filled it to 8 instead of 10 to reduce the tension and it fed those first rounds fine after that.

Maybe try underfilling your mags and try again? But first, make sure they're 9mm mags.

You haven't polished your feed ramp with a dremel have you? Or put in too light of a guide rod spring? Dave Olhasso sells replacement springs, and the ever popular D spring for your hammer spring replacement (drops the DA pull down 3 lbs).

Go to http://beretta92fs.com and look at the extractor removal video and take that thing off and clean up the gunk out of there and see if that helps too.

[Sydwaiz]

If it was a Beretta 8000 Cougar and you were using PMC ammo, I'd say you're limp wristing as my wifes gun has that problem with that ammo. But since you are not I'd listen to someone else!

[Pred@tor]

The first time I shot my 92FS when I limp wristed it I got a couple failures to feed and I was using the Wallyworld Winchester value pack ammo. Since I lubed my pistol it has ran fine and reliable. I love the gun its for sure a keeper and mine is Italian made one too from the year 2000. The gun looked barely used so I got a good buy. I have one crappy mag but hopefully by the end of the week I will get a nice new mag. (I need a new mag spring base plate) I bought some +p+ ammo yesterday too Federal Classic 115 grain 9mm Luger Hi-Shock JHP it says for LEO use only. Apparently this box is from 1991 and I still see them on cheaper than dirt too.

[InvictusManeo]

It's good to see people on here who actually respect this gun. I was thinking about picking one up, as the platform fits my hand better than any glove I've ever owned (I can't even LOOK at a glock without my wrist hurting), but I was a little nervous about the fact that nobody on here ever mentions them in the "what should I get" threads.

ps - sorry.

[gwl]

The Beretta 92FS was my first handgun (still have it) and I love it. Put it away for a few years but I'm starting to shoot with it again.

[Suvorov]

It's good to see people on here who actually respect this gun. I was thinking about picking one up, as the platform fits my hand better than any glove I've ever owned (I can't even LOOK at a glock without my wrist hurting), but I was a little nervous about the fact that nobody on here ever mentions them in the "what should I get" threads.

ps - sorry.

As much as I hate to concede a point to the bradies, there is a certain amount of consumerism in the gun culture. Right now, plastic guns are all the rage with the latest HK, XD, and Glock getting every one's attention. It is all about the best, the newest, and the coolest. Just look at all the guys who have never spent a day of their lives in the military who build themselves the ultimate "Tactic Cool" ARs. The Beretta is an old pistol, is old news, and the only ones buying them these days are the die hard fans, or military guys wanting their own M9. This doesn't mean that they are bad guns (in fact I'd say they are as good as any other), it just means that they are not the latest fad.

[Ironchef]

As much as I hate to concede a point to the bradies, there is a certain amount of consumerism in the gun culture. Right now, plastic guns are all the rage with the latest HK, XD, and Glock getting every one's attention. It is all about the best, the newest, and the coolest. Just look at all the guys who have never spent a day of their lives in the military who build themselves the ultimate "Tactic Cool" ARs. The Beretta is an old pistol, is old news, and the only ones buying them these days are the die hard fans, or military guys wanting their own M9. This doesn't mean that they are bad guns (in fact I'd say they are as good as any other), it just means that they are not the latest fad.

I don't get it. You're saying that only hardened military men buy 92s/m9s and that all of us non-military geeks are getting tupperware and being tacticool mall ninjas? I resemble that remark!

But seriously, I would have to disagree. First, it doesn't matter if you're military or not, people from both sides lust after 1911s and glocks equally from my limited exposure to this culture. Sure there's been a tupperware trend since Die Hard came out (which will likely never die but be the defacto standard before too long), but that doesn't mean all the noobs are doing tupperware. When the m9 is replaced by the M&P45 next week, then alla yous with your heavy, steel, pretty Italian guns will rejoice that it'll be "military-cool" to get a polymer pistol finally!

[djacks]

Well it may be an old design... but I went and bought a new 92FS last week and think it's great. New 10 round factory mags are bit scarce to buy right now but Beretta are hoping to get more in at end of March.

[ibanezfoo]

It's good to see people on here who actually respect this gun. I was thinking about picking one up, as the platform fits my hand better than any glove I've ever owned (I can't even LOOK at a glock without my wrist hurting), but I was a little nervous about the fact that nobody on here ever mentions them in the "what should I get" threads.

ps - sorry.

I know it sounds like blasphemy but I kind of feel about my 92FS like a lot of people feel about their 1911's. It always comes with me to the range no matter what else I bring... I've put I don't know how many 1000's of rounds through it, reliably... it fits my small hands perfect with Hogue grips (even though its actually bigger than my 1911)...I am accurate with it... holds 15 rounds.... and she loves me, I can tell. Haha if they would just fix the messed up laws I could marry it. hehe just kidding. I've pulled it apart several times and performed poor mans mods on it and she keeps on blasting away.

-Bryan

[Suvorov]

I don't get it. You're saying that only hardened military men buy 92s/m9s and that all of us non-military geeks are getting tupperware and being tacticool mall ninjas? I resemble that remark!

But seriously, I would have to disagree. First, it doesn't matter if you're military or not, people from both sides lust after 1911s and glocks equally from my limited exposure to this culture. Sure there's been a tupperware trend since Die Hard came out (which will likely never die but be the defacto standard before too long), but that doesn't mean all the noobs are doing tupperware. When the m9 is replaced by the M&P45 next week, then alla yous with your heavy, steel, pretty Italian guns will rejoice that it'll be "military-cool" to get a polymer pistol finally!

Dude, all I'm saying is that the Beretta is not the flavor of the week like it was back in the late 80s when it was tacticool. Sure, normal people still buy them, but not at the level of HKs, XDs, and Glocks. And yes, lots of the military guys buy the HKs and Glocks too. I didn't say that military guys only buy M9s (a lot of them hate em). I'm just trying to say that just because the M92/M9 isn't the latest in tacticool, it is still a damn good piece of kit. Sorry I used strong words like "only." I think we are on the same side here no?

[Ironchef]

Dude, all I'm saying is that the Beretta is not the flavor of the week like it was back in the late 80s when it was tacticool. Sure, normal people still buy them, but not at the level of HKs, XDs, and Glocks. And yes, lots of the military guys buy the HKs and Glocks too. I didn't say that military guys only buy M9s (a lot of them hate em). I'm just trying to say that just because the M92/M9 isn't the latest in tacticool, it is still a damn good piece of kit. Sorry I used strong words like "only." I think we are on the same side here no?

My apologies. Bad attempt at weaving humor in with my opinion.

I'm actually a fan of the 92fs. I recently parted with it, it's still the best looking gun, and I intend to have one again. No 1911 can look as good as a plain jane, black bruniton, accokeek/italy made 92fs.

[1911whore]

your beretta issues.

Ok for the double feeds and stovepipes the only thing that comes to mind is actually two issues, number one if youve fired ALOT of rounds and have not swapped out the recoil spring that could be a biggie in the platform, secondly if youve left the mags loaded for a long period of time OR are using aftermarket high cap mags they are notorious for this. As for the light primer strikes no tyelling really unless i fire the pistol but my suspicion is the gun may have been either left cocked for long poeriods of time keeping the hammmer spring under pressure thus weakening the spring OR the spring was swapped or cut to achieve a lighter pull and went too far, possible overly dirty chamber but seeing that you didnt have that issue recurring i doubt it. I am more than happy to recieve a PM from you and try to analyze the issue. I was in the army for a long time am a triple certified military armorer and am a gunsmith on the side and am currently working on 2 patents for the beretta, the only other guy in the country with more knowledge of the Beretta are as follows, Dave Harrington, Dave Olhasso, and Ernest Langdon,