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  • Ech0Sierra
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 944

    Beretta Problems

    When I took my Beretta to the range, I tried to shoot it, but it kept doublefeeding, failing to eject, and stovepiping. At least I got to practice a hell of a lot of malfunction drills. Anyone know whats wrong? I pull the trigger. click...click....click... rack slide...IT WAS THE SAME CASING THAT I SHOT THREE CLICKS AGO. I'm cleaning it like crazy and the action feels fine to me...
  • #2
    aca72
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 3237

    Ammo maybe?
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    • #3
      Matt C
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2006
      • 7128

      Need slightly more info....

      Which model Beretta? (the obvious guess would be a 92FS, but it could be anything...)
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      • #4
        ghideon
        Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 403

        Mag springs? Maybe time for some replacements?

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        • #5
          grnt
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 634

          Ammo, magazines, or break in period? I see this issue alot on the range.

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          • #6
            ibanezfoo
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2007
            • 12238

            How old is this weapon? I've had a 92FS for ~10 years and have put 1000's of rounds through it with one single stovepipe with range reloads. I baby it though like I do with all of my weapons. Is the recoil spring messed up or binding somehow? Is your extractor bent or its spring crusted up?

            -Bryan
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            • #7
              JTROKS
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2007
              • 13093

              Sounds like the extractor could be malfunctioning. It may have a rough or dirty chamber causing the spent case to get stuck in the chamber causing a double feed. It could be a broken ejector causing a double feed. Magazine may be out of spec causing the slide to slow down creating a heap of jams. Recoil spring may be too heavy for the round being shot. Ammo may be too light and short stroking the cycling process. Gun may just be too dirty/gritty to cycle with the ammo. Mechanical binding slowing the cycling. Shooter limp wrist causing the problem. Could be lots of reason for your Beretta to behave poorly. Do I sound like a Goodyear car center mechanic?

              jtroks
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              • #8
                Ech0Sierra
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 944

                1. Beretta 92fs
                2. Beretta Factory and Mec-Gar mags
                3. CCI Blazer

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                • #9
                  gunrun45
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2018

                  Sounds like the mags to me.
                  Only feeding issues I have ever had with mine (same story as yours) was when I used bad mags. Are you sure they are the right caliber?
                  If you are using M96 (40S&W) mags with your M92 it will develope the same jams unless you are using a M92 follower.

                  Mec-Gar mags used to be junk in the berretta series. I threw away all of mine but that was about 8 years ago. Don't know how old your mags are.

                  I feed mine a steady diet of CCI blazers and never had the above issues. Extraction and feeding are usually more smooth due to the nature of the case as long as no bullet set back has developed from banging the rounds around in the shipping crate.

                  As a side note, have you ever replaced the recoil spring? How many rounds through this piece?
                  Last edited by gunrun45; 02-19-2008, 8:42 PM.
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                  • #10
                    hntnnut
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 1066

                    Limp wristing??? I can force my 92 to jam every shot if I dont use a proper grip. also dry frame rails will cause the same thing.

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                    • #11
                      Ech0Sierra
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 944

                      I'll double check the mags, I don't know how many rounds through this gun (consignment), The finish doesn't have that much wear... now that you think about it, my 92 and 96 mags look similar... too similar...

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                      • #12
                        gunrun45
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2018

                        If you are lucky your mags are stamped on the body somewhere either as 9mm or 40S&W. Some have the stamp on the mag plate on the bottom of the gun... Needless to say these are to be avoided. I actually dremel the mag number (in my series or mags) and caliber on the front lower edge of the mag after I have tested it and deemed it OK to keep after buying any new mags.

                        Good locked grip stance, good mags, good recoil spring, even OK ammo and that gun should run all day with no problem.

                        Berretta says the M92 has a mean round count life of around 25,000 rounds. I've personally put 10,000 rounds of 40S&W and another 15,000 rounds of 9mm (with a 9mm barrel and 9mm mags) through my M96 with no issues that were not user or magazine induced. Just clean and feed IMO with boring reliability. I've had the frame, slide and barrel inspected by a gunsmith every 10,000 rounds or so as a CYA measure due to all the junk I've heard about frame cracks from +P+ subgun ammo.

                        The mods I did to my M96 stainless that I bought NIB in 1999?
                        harts recoil guide rod
                        Full ghost ring rear sight
                        Wilson mouse trap trigger upgrade

                        I've gone through about 5 recoil springs that I've changed out about every 5000 rounds or so just to be safe. I'm seriously considering an investment in a 357 sig barrel now just for S&G.

                        I'm sure you will work your kinks out and it will last you more than your life time.
                        Last edited by gunrun45; 02-19-2008, 9:25 PM.
                        Murphy's Law - What can happen will happen at the least opportune moment

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                        • #13
                          ibanezfoo
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 12238

                          Originally posted by Ech0Sierra
                          1. Beretta 92fs
                          2. Beretta Factory and Mec-Gar mags
                          3. CCI Blazer
                          I use all of the above without any issues. I even have a couple mec-gar mags that have never given me an issue, but they are double stack 10 rds. (bottom half solid plastic). Short of incorrect mags, I'd still check the recoil spring and extractor. Is the extractor push pin thing (heh, hows that for a technical term) on the left side of the breech area (while sighting down the weapon, slide open) bent or its little lip mangled?

                          -Bryan
                          vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                          • #14
                            Ech0Sierra
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 944

                            Originally posted by gunrun45
                            If you are lucky your mags are stamped on the body somewhere either as 9mm or 40S&W. Some have the stamp on the mag plate on the bottom of the gun... Needless to say these are to be avoided. I actually dremel the mag number (in my series or mags) and caliber on the front lower edge of the mag after I have tested it and deemed it OK to keep after buying any new mags.

                            Good locked grip stance, good mags, good recoil spring, even OK ammo and that gun should run all day with no problem.

                            Berretta says the M92 has a mean round count life of around 25,000 rounds. I've personally put 10,000 rounds of 40S&W and another 15,000 rounds of 9mm (with a 9mm barrel and 9mm mags) through my M96 with no issues that were not user or magazine induced. Just clean and feed IMO with boring reliability. I've had the frame, slide and barrel inspected by a gunsmith every 10,000 rounds or so as a CYA measure due to all the junk I've heard about frame cracks from +P+ subgun ammo.

                            The mods I did to my M96 stainless that I bought NIB in 1999?
                            harts recoil guide rod
                            Full ghost ring rear sight
                            Wilson mouse trap trigger upgrade

                            I've gone through about 5 recoil springs that I've changed out about every 5000 rounds or so just to be safe. I'm seriously considering an investment in a 357 sig barrel now just for S&G.

                            I'm sure you will work your kinks out and it will last you more than your life time.
                            One of my mags is stamped Beretta 9MM on the body.

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                            • #15
                              Sheldon
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2149

                              I'm assuming the double feed is just a result of the fired case not being extracted/ejected. Your extractor would be the suspect part in my opinion. If the hook of the extractor broken possibly, or is there junk caught under the extractor?? A rough/dirty chamber might make the aluminum cases stick more than usual in the chamber of the wepon as well.

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