Defending yourself from animals

[21SF]

You think it has too much recoil? I say not enough!! lol

[chozenfew805]

[Brujo]

Please stay in doors...you'll be safer that way!

Wow, I wonder if bears wonder what weapon they need when walking into my house?

If you don't want to see a bear stay away from where they live. I grew up Three Rivers outside of Sequoia national park, still have land there. Bears in our garden and mulberry tree where a common occurrence as was seeing them on the trail. Unless you found a bear in a trashcan they are generally not aggressive...well at least not as aggressive as the OP asking what tool one needs to kill one.

Now if you want to talk about dangerous animals you may meet in the woods, there is the two legged rattle snake, the Sierra Nevada tweeker, el Manuel Labor pot farmer, and me when I'm asking you if you can read the no trespassing sign next to the fence you just jumped.

[whipkiller]

Don't take this the wrong way but: this is absolute fantasy, the outdoor man's version of mall ninja massive shootout. Your friend isn't hiking in the Congo, or in a central american jungle...

To answer your question, I ran into a guy at a gun shop a few months back who recounted his tale of running into a large black bear (not in California), and put 4 rounds of .44 mag into the bear when it charged him. Bear did not die, eventually ran off after shot #4. Tell your friend to worry less about bears, and instead bring a compass and water so that when he gets lost search and rescue won't have to go find his ***.

side note: I have personally been sick of the overwhelming amount of posts using insanely bad grammar and spelling on here the past 6 months or so. I'm glad this thread received appropriate responses, not to mention funny ones! I hope this trend continues I miss the more educated and humorous threads that have become scarse around here.

-Freq

Okay, I wouldn't call that "Insanely bad", but it still made me laugh.

[deadcoyote]

I had a black bear eating grass seed from the bag in my back yard about two weeks ago at 0300. I stood right next to it with a Glock 22 with a TLR-1 on it, then proceeded to give it a liberal spray with the old garden hose. It lumbered off without incident. I've lived in the far north of CA my whole life, had several bear run-ins, none of which went south at all. That's not to say it can't happen, just respect what you're dealing with and be prepared (mentally/and it helps to be armed).

[M27]

You think it has too much recoil? I say not enough!! lol

don't knock me unless you have shot one

while it is really fun to shoot

you can have too much recoil in a defense situation.

sight recovery with the Alaskan it 3 times as long as a full size 10mm

[UNLTD1487]

A glock 9mm will kill it, anything else will just piss it off.

lol

[ElvenSoul]

25ACP

[dangerranger]

+1. He will not see a Grizzly in CA. Black bears are not much of a threat. Nearly nobody has been attacked to any degree in the past few decades, and only 3 people have ever died of a bear attack in California and 2 of those were movie/zoo bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._North_America <<< the very last one is the only fatal wild bear attack in CA and it was in 1875). He's more likely to get hit by a falling tree.

Same basic story with cougars, although attacks and deaths are actually more common than with bears. That does NOT make them common though haha, it just means it has actually happened in the last century (like 3-4 times).


Here's your vicious black bear





No reason to shoot one dead. Carry bear spray if he's paranoid about it. It's extremely effective and a lot less expensive. Doesn't leave much anything dead and there are no serious legal concerns about having it with you.

The woman shooting this video is an Idiot! when a bear is popping its jaws and making bluff charges It saying "Get away from me!" Shes going to end up like the hiker in Alaska that the only way they found out what happened to him is by the pics on his camera. It showed him trying to get closer to the bear for a better pic! and a short movie of him being eaten. DR

[ssaction]

Biggest danger in Cali is the human type and the smallest like mosquitoes and ticks.

Agreed! But what caliber is best for mosquitoes and ticks?

[sigstroker]

Bear spray? Better hope that bear attacks from downwind.

I don't know why the state database shows so few mountain lion attacks. There was one I specifically remember from several years ago that was semi-local, reported in the news, but it's not on the state list.

Yes, the most likely dangerous critter you'll meet is a human, but anything that will kill a bear or mountain lion will do in a human too.

BTW, carrying a weapon in National Parks is probably not allowed. I know they aren't allowed on National Monuments.

But the real answer is this, slung over your back - preferred carry in Alaska:

[morfeeis]

+1. He will not see a Grizzly in CA. Black bears are not much of a threat. Nearly nobody has been attacked to any degree in the past few decades, and only 3 people have ever died of a bear attack in California and 2 of those were movie/zoo bears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._North_America <<< the very last one is the only fatal wild bear attack in CA and it was in 1875). He's more likely to get hit by a falling tree.

Same basic story with cougars, although attacks and deaths are actually more common than with bears. That does NOT make them common though haha, it just means it has actually happened in the last century (like 3-4 times).


Here's your vicious black bear





No reason to shoot one dead. Carry bear spray if he's paranoid about it. It's extremely effective and a lot less expensive. Doesn't leave much anything dead and there are no serious legal concerns about having it with you.

It's from NJ, everything from there is a wimp.

On a side note, that lady is an idiot, she is poking a bear. That's the kind of person that ends up dead and everyone makes the same stupid statement, "he was always such a nice bear".

[morfeeis]

Agreed! But what caliber is best for mosquitoes and ticks?

Nothing less then a RPG will do.

[marathonman]

For black bears, a whistle and flashlight will be plenty and multipurpose .

[daspag]

Where in Northern California does this grizzly bear exist? There hasn't been a grizzly in CA for at least 100 years. And your friend might be " attacj " by a bear? What is that language? Slovanian?

You'll find grizzly's ALL day long in wyoming/Montana "Yellowstone". But you better not get caught carrying a loaded firearm in there!